*After The Cleanse*

[Res]

It amazes me how I'm always missing "one key ingredient" in a recipe! :mad: :mad: And then I have to wait, wait, wait until I can fit in a trip to the grocery store. I am NOT the substitution Queen like Kathy. :p ;)

Tanya: I can't wait to hear about the "The raspberry vanilla-almond granola"! The blueberry granola bars were turned into granola instead of bars and I loved it, even though I was missing about 3 cups of blueberries. But it sustained me for breakfast and as a snack and with Cold Almond milk MMmm Mmm Mmm. :) Kenney's almond milk recipe is probably the best I've ever had and I've had a lot! (<- and that can sound really bad... :o)

[Res]

Well gang all of this mention about avocados made me eat one!!! I have 2 more and I'm trying to conrol myself. But they're so tasty. I never craved them or ate them before MC, but I'm in love now. :p
Yeah? Well just wait until Mr Mango gets a hold of you. He's ruthless I tell you! Ruthless!! ;)

[Res]

Res: quick question re: the coconut oil (which I love btw). Mine says that for maximum freshness, keep in the fridge.
Not sure if anyone else responded but that would be a big "NOPE". The Virgin coconut oil has a "shelf life" (not fridge) of a year without going rancid! :eek: Mine sits out and when it's hot it's liquid and when it's cold it's solid and I use it ANY WAY I CAN GET IT! (Boy am I in a mood ;). Silly me.)

It should smell heavenly in the jar and on your skin. I love that stuff. Thanks alot, now I have to go smear some on my arm or face! :p

Mmm, now my hands are glistening and my dog is looking at me hungrily!

[Res]

Dollface: Oooh I love collards raw, cooked, you name it! They're also amazingly sturdy as wraps! Ani Phyo has a Ginger (oh gosh my mind went blank), well it's like Sushi and incredibly yummy but you use raw Nori Rolls and oh my. :)

Tanya: it's VERY Time consuming preparing raw food and I don't eat all raw but have some "standby" standing by meaning; Vital Choice canned Salmon. Mercola has his stamp of approval on it and states that it's mercury free and from the deep cold waters of Alaska. So, if I'm too dang tired after lugging home groceries I have something healthy to fall back on. And don't feel too bad because I used to do this eating SAD. You know - you come home with $100 of groceries but don't feel like cooking so you order a pizza. HAHAHA, so funny because everyone does it. :)

My Saturdays have taken a different turn so now instead of leisurely waking up at 0-dark-30 and preparing a bunch of food I'm chomping at the bit for them to wake up so that I can travel the 35 minutes to see my grandbaby! But I'll have to work something out because salads all week just don't git it! :)

Oh, I did make another batch of Kenney's Chil. I truly love the stuff! They're bringing in truckloads of pizza to work tomorrow for a celebration so I have my chili and fruit salad already packed. :)

[dollfacegreene]

Thank you so much Boots. I will be patient. I am looking forward to trying as many raw recipes that I can. I just bought 3 avocados today and am going to broaden my horizons. Thank you again for your input.

[dollfacegreene]

RES I am going to experiment with collards now. I have only had them cooked southern style. I am a grandmother also of 3 (14, 8,4). It is exhausting though. The joy and happiness is overwhelming and then add the anticipation of hugging them again, WOW no wonder we spoil our grandbabies. There is nothing like being a grandmother. Enjoy and get as much sleep now as you can, because when she starts walking OH BOY!

[ddohl2]

Hi all,

I've made it through day 3 of the post-cleanse eating regimen. No problems whatsoever other than headaches and feeling very tired - I really think I need a bit more food. I'm wondering how long I should wait before I try a small glass of wine (organic, of course). Does anybody have any thoughts on that? I don't want to rush back into old eating habits and am being very mindful of what I plan to eat now that I'm off the cleanse but a little spot of wine would sure be nice. Thoughts?

[Tanyazl1]

It amazes me how I'm always missing "one key ingredient" in a recipe! :mad: :mad: And then I have to wait, wait, wait until I can fit in a trip to the grocery store. I am NOT the substitution Queen like Kathy. :p ;)

Tanya: I can't wait to hear about the "The raspberry vanilla-almond granola"! The blueberry granola bars were turned into granola instead of bars and I loved it, even though I was missing about 3 cups of blueberries. But it sustained me for breakfast and as a snack and with Cold Almond milk MMmm Mmm Mmm. :) Kenney's almond milk recipe is probably the best I've ever had and I've had a lot! (<- and that can sound really bad... :o)

RES When I arrive home from work my husband admitted that he had eaten an entire sheet!:eek::mad::) I made him promise that he would not devour the remaining sheet. LOL, I'll probably need to hide the container.:rolleyes: We had Kenney's Thai salad for dinner tonight which was really gooood:D, while my son munched on a foot-long Subway ham, salami, pepperoni and cheese sandwich with chipotle and mayo.

think I will study Ani's Raw Food Kitchen book in addition to Kenney's and the gone raw site to see what we can make that will last a few days.

[Boots]

Hi group!!
TANYA - I have to agree - I think Kenney's Golden Tortilla Chips are FABulous. Interesting that neither you nor RES really liked the Mac & Cheese. I thought I didn't like it much because it was too rich LOL.

Okay, now I really want to make granola but I'm worried about portion control. I finished the last of RES's cranberry scones today - they were a great post-workout meal.

Ramon is still working on making some wasabi string beans - this is one experiement that is NOT working. Frankly, they are awful LOL. The string beans are getting smaller and smaller but they're not getting crunchy - just really hard and leathery - and they lost all their wasabi flavor. I thought dehydrating was supposed to intensify things :confused: - oh well.

DOLL - I LOVE collards!! Never really ate them before, but collard wraps are one of my new favorite things (put some kind of pate inside, add sprouts & whatever else, roll up - EAT!! YUM).

PINK - How's it going? How is your energy level?

BETTY - LOL No more figs for me just now :) I did buy some fresh ones - which I love - but they weren't very good :( Interesting that your tastes are changing! When you figure out what your soup is "missing" let us know, okay?

DDOH - No real thoughts for you about the wine, but I'm not much of a drinker - I always had higher "priority" items for my empty calories LOL (like M&Ms) I would definitely choose more food over wine to start with.

RES - I'll have to try putting the hemp nuts in my salad. I just got some and haven't even tried them yet. I used to put hemp protein powder in my green smoothies. I've been wondering about subbing hemp for some of the flax in recipes - guess I'll have to experiment.

I'm going to go make Ani's Ginger stuff for sushi rolls, and maybe a different kind of cheese sauce, too. It's so cold here, it will be nice to go snuggle with Ramon :D

Happy eating everyone!

[Kram]

Boots: Sorry, no good food adventures (at least of the raw variety) from NYC. I was much better about eating healthier than I usually do tho. I'll be back at the end of Feb and will have to try Pure then. Had another friend recommend it, but ran around mid-town for 4 days and only made it to Union Square one morning (where Pure is).

Res: thanks for follow-up on the coconut oil. Am thinking I'm going to bring it to Turks and Caicos, and am hoping the airlines don't decide its a bomb or something. I'm addicted. It certainly made it to NYC. Although I think I have too much in my hair, which is practically pressed to my head at the moment.... Glad you're enjoying the baby so much!!!!

[pinklemonade]

hi people!!

i had this craving...last night (i know i am getting girl's matter), so i ate japanese:D:D

i know myself so i went to the juice bar and got kale/apple juice before i went to the restaurant. hoping that i would not over eat...

i was scared and felt guilty at the same time...because i have not had japanese for such a long time (bty- i am japanese and used to eat the food very frequently...) also i was doing pretty good keep eating raw.... i broke it!! i was very satisfied with the food.... yes cooked food and raw fish.. and some carbs.... well.... well.... :eek:
and today during lunch i had some feta cheese, pita bread.... oh~no!! :p:p

do you guys get some craving before getting period?? i have been eating chocolate like crazy!!! now i have zits on my face!! :mad::mad::mad:

other than that, i think as per boots advise, i am eating more frequently throughout the day (green juice in a morning, fruits after that until lunch, salad for lunch and veggies, nuts, avocado stuff for dinner). i feel my energy level is much better:D

one thing i have to do is that i have to practice raw food prep and learn about about it!!
it takes time it does, right??!!

well, happy friday!!!

:D:D

[dollfacegreene]

Boots I was patient and low and behold I had a BM today. Oh what a feeling of comfort.:D:o:D Thank you for the encouragement, it eased my concern. I am doing the SWF once more in the morning just to get all out.
Since my husband and I have several engagements this weekend, I am going to start Monday with more raw meals. I plan on doing as good as I can this weekend and not put too much crap back into my body. After that I am going to be on it, even though my husband is a bad influence. He eats whatever he wants and is proud of it. (Big body builder kind of guy). Anyway wish me luck and send me prayers of self control. Good luck to all.;)

[Slimmer of the year 2008]

Hi there, pinklemonade I just had a quick question.

Have you found that after eating your usual food you have gained the weight back after your clense? Or does your body let youhave say a once a week treat ?

I'm planning to go back to low fat calorie controlled diet after clense but would hate to gain weight back that i've lost!

I'm on day 7 of my first cleanse & have dropped 17lbs so far, aiming for 10 days or more

Thanks, Gillian

[Tanyazl1]

Hi there, pinklemonade I just had a quick question.

Have you found that after eating your usual food you have gained the weight back after your clense? Or does your body let youhave say a once a week treat ?

I'm planning to go back to low fat calorie controlled diet after clense but would hate to gain weight back that i've lost!

I'm on day 7 of my first cleanse & have dropped 17lbs so far, aiming for 10 days or more

Thanks, Gillian

Hi Gillian!

My experience is the same as Dollfacegreen's. Most men can eat what they want :mad::rolleyes: while females, especially if you are over 40 years-old, retain practically every calorie consumed. Oh well :( Physical exercise, right BOOTS? Calories are calories and metabolism plays a huge role in what's burned ;)

Anyway, I transitioned to raw food after my cleanse. Today is day 6 of my 30-day raw food challenge :) I have gained .5 to 1.0 lbs. a day :confused: I realize I must trick my body to stay at my desired weight, because after fasting it wants to return to its last set-point. So this means I must work to make it recognize a new set point. I plan to increase my consumption of lemonade using it at a meal replacement and gradually introduce different raw foods and green smoothies until my body realizes it is not starving.:eek: And, accepts the set-point I want. Who's the boss here:mad:

Oh and I can't forget, I must walk 10,000 steps minimum each day; so far, I'm only at 5,000 a day :) I'm charting everything daily so I can stay focused. :D I'm sure if you will be successful, too! :D One day at a time. One day at a time 8)

[Res]

RES When I arrive home from work my husband admitted that he had eaten an entire sheet!:eek::mad::) I laughed OUT LOUD and hard when I read this! Hilarious! I guess that answers my question. :)

I've had my eye on Kenney's Thai salad! Haven't the energy to make it yet.

Dollface: You're a Grandma too!!! I have no clue but I am SO happy. Everyday they send me a new picture. She is the smiliest baby at only 7 days old and they say it's gas but she must have 24/7 gas then! Seriously she knows she landed on both feet with both sides of the family and her parents. My son keeps saying "She will be spoiled, but not *rotten*". I agree. I can't wait to read to her! AND I get exhausted just thinking about her! hahaha :D

I was given permission to "email" her picture but not post it on the Internet so if anyone really wants to see her PM me with your email address. Kathy I'm pretty sure I have yours but send it again please. :)

I need to catch up with all of you so I'm going to keep reading. It's so nice to be here. :D

[Res]

DDOH: You'll ALWAYS hear from me about the wine! ;) Go for it! http://www.kurts-smilies.de/trink5.gif Even Mercola can't totally dispute the health benefits of a glass of wine. Go slow because it can hit pretty hard. The benefits FAR outweigh any negatives and I don't even remember what they are. You know, moderation. :)

[Res]

KRAM: Wow, how fun! When are you leaving and for how long? You may not need to take much because a little goes a long way - depending on how long you'll be gone. Enjoy! :)

[Res]

I have gained .5 to 1.0 lbs. a day :confused: I realize I must trick my body to stay at my desired weight, Tanya: Kathy and I went through this and I was SO ticked off! I gained 4 lbs but stayed there through the entire 90 days of eating raw. Still, it bugged me that I gained and didn't lose. Alisha Cohen said if you ate all raw you'd lose. This is par for my course - thyroid issue and who knows what else - prevents me from keeping it off entirely. Of course, exercise is #1 and I hate it and don't do it. Ok that was extreme and what I meant was, I'm so tired that even trying to force myself is too tiring. I'm hoping to get this resolved with Bio-identical hormone therapy. We'll see. Just wanted you to know that we went through the weight gain too. :o

[Res]

Luckily I'm stuck tomorrow getting my taxes done near home. Otherwise I'd be at my son's house with the baby. :) And then another week of not being prepared would go by.

Kenney's Blueberry granola bars were pretty awesome. They didn't make it into bars, I just dropped it on the screen and dehydrated. Can't wait to try the vanilla almond. I'm determined to make more raw veggie things without all the nuts. I think the nuts are too much fat. I dunno. So I better Get page 128 out of the way ;) (Kenney's Everyday raw) before I head that direction. Do it - check out the picture. :)

Salads are on the menu and I've a newfound love for Jicama. The best I've ever had were organic from WF. I have a little left and it's so juicy and delicious even plain.

Gonna go read.

*Smooches to all!

[Tanyazl1]

Res, I hope and pray the Bio-identical hormone therapy works for you :) Wow, my heart goes out to you. Thank you for sharing your experience. I am working to combat HBP. Took myself off meds a year ago. If I cannot resolve it with raw food, meditation, and exercise as I have read is possible, I will go back to meds that compromise kidney function. ugh! I really hate too.

On a more pleasant note, the blueberry granola sounds delicious :D I'll try these next. I also want to make more of the golden tortilla chips. I reeeeaalllyy like the taste and the crunch.

Until next time. Enjoy! :D

[Res]

Tanya:

HBP=High Blood Pressure? If so I subscribe to Mercola's and Dr Al Sears newsletters and they are convinced that exercise will bring it down - along with diet - but then really specify exercise. So that's good news. If you use mercola, go to mercola.com and type in hbp and see what he says. I love the guy. He's alternative and more right than wrong. If he messes up he says so or if he finds a better way he tells it. All the best to you as well. I'm sure theres an answer out there for both of us. :)

I tried bio-identical partly in November and it was a fiasco but it's a long story. I'm ready to try again. Just waiting to hear back from the dr. the cleanse helped a lot! I'm looking forward to another round in April. :)

[Kram]

Res: I'm going for 10 days - i can't wait!!!! But here's my newest challenge. My coconut oil leaked all over one of my winter boots on my drive back from NYC. Its all stuck in the fur (fake) and on the suede. How the heck do you get that out???

[pinklemonade]

good morning-

kram- next time when you are in the city, you might want to try bonobo's, a take out restaurant with good varieties of raw food (and pretty reasonable). also, lifethyme, a grocery store with good raw food bar and juice bar. i had some salad and lasagna and they were pretty good. i am still searching for places in the city, so when i find more, i will let you know!!

boots- thanks for the advise!! i try to eat more nuts and avocado etc throughout the day. that has been helping me, so i don't get tired easily!!!

need some help please!!

i think i am getting my period soon... i have been craving for chocolate and have been eating some like a crazy person. also, i am eating some carbs.....i am TRYing to stick with raw for the most part but.... but.... BUT!!! can't help it...
i went to a bar last night and yes had some lite beer.... came home and had some left over cheese bread from DOMINO's (my boyfriend ordered it, not me!!) when i got up this morning.."GUILT GUILT" and i am disappointed with myself...

is there any trick to kill some of this crazy craving??? my face is breaking out and like OMG ZITS LAND now... :(:(:(

thanks,

have a great day!!!!:):)

[Res]

Kram: Uh oh! Check out this link for removing Olive Oil and coconut oil! (http://www.dld123.com/q&a/index.php?cid=238) Let me know if any of those work. :)

Pink: There's a trick and it's "filling up on salad" first. Too boring, you say? Not so. Fit for Life, Mercola and all the other raw food recipes books will give you gazillions of "different" salads. Make a 10 day salad menu and rotate the salads. One could be a mandarin orange chinese salad. Another could be raw homemade coleslaw and we don't want to forgot the Salad free for all with dark greens, avocados, tom, walnuts dried cranberries etc. Once you eat your salad you're less tempted.

Now as far as chocolate goes I'm right there with you. Someone in the Recipe box is a raw chocolate sauce. I never tried it but Kathy made it a lot! Do a search for Teepee's chocolate sauce. ;) Or just eat some dark chocolate with no more than 4 grams of sugar. Wait, is that right? Yeah I think so. hahah


The lite beer is no biggie. The crappy cheese bread is though. lol Did you enjoy it? If so then let it go. If not then next time you won't be inclined to eat it.

They served mobs of pizza at work on Thursday but I thought back to the last time I ate it and I felt like crap in about 2 hours. It wasn't worth the horrid feelings later on. If you're going to blow it, do it on something that's a great quality. There's a bakery around the corner from my house. Once every 3 or 4 months I'll get a scone or an eclair. They use top notch ingredients and I never feel like crap afterwards BUT if I do this often I'll blow up like a blimp faster than usual.

You're doing fine. Stay prepared and always (try to) have something healthy on hand to eat first! :)

[angel_eyez816]

Hi Everyone,

I've been missing in action lately. My 29th birthday was Friday so I was out celebrating. I'm coming to say goodbye again. I'm starting MC over. My skin is dreadful so this time I'm sticking with 40 days. 25 days only aggrevated my system and now its detox city. I'll be back March 20th when my 40 days is over. Be blessed everyone!!! Hugs and love!!!:D

[Slimmer of the year 2008]

Morning everyone,

I'm on day 9 of 10 day clense, thank goodness! lol as I am HUNGRY!!! I've been so good, stuck to it to the t! Was especially hard yesterday with all my family when they're were eating & normally it's a social occasion & they'll all get stuck in! ha ha

Good things are that I fit back into trousers I couldn't get past my thighs beofre his DC ha ha & that I've dropped 19lbs :)

I've got 70 more lbs to loose so I'm going to come off this on Monday & break the fast over 4 days then return to healthy eating & see how my weight goes. Hopefully I'll keep it off, if I do I think I'll go for a longer clense in April :D

Maybe have to have more drinks than six today as I'm feeling hungry, I do find I get a high from the drinks - sugar perhaps lol

Gillian 8)

[Res]

Morning Buddies :)

In the dehydrator: Almond/Strawberry Granola (Kenney) and Blueberry Granola (also Kenny). This time I made the blueberry with the correct amount of blueberries (8 cups) and man oh man what a difference! Last time I only had 3 cups so I worked with what I had. This has been going since Saturday.

I haven't tasted the Strawberry granola yet, just made it this morning but if Tanya's hubbie ate an entire tray I'm pretty sure it's a keeper. :)

I hope everyone is doing well. I'll check in with you later (still having computer problems :mad: after trying to access a raw chef site.)

*Smooch!

[Boots]

Hi Group!

Quick hug to all. Still having computer problems and I'm on schedule with PINK and have my period and awful cramps. I caved and took some Advil - just too much on the to-do list today. Still feel miserable, but better.

Ramon is all about macaroons - what can I say - sweet cravings...

Ugh - sorry I'm so scattered

xoxoxo
Margaret

[Res]

Margaret: You're not scattered. I'm just happy you're posting whatever you feel like posting. :)

Must be Malady lane this weekend. My back is hurting and even the arnica cream isn't doing it's thing. My back problems are chronic. I'm considering taking an Excedrin. Have a headache too. It just happens ya know. :o :)

Hang in there and I hope you feel better. :)

[CStar]

hey everyone!!! so 1st day of post cleanse..yay! Sometimes I feel this process is harder than the cleanse itself. So when do u suggest the probiotics? Was going to do some coconut milk yogurt (w/ cultures) in the future as well. Nice to see everyone eating well!! Hope u feel better Res, stretch!!

[mtmouse]

Yum!

I just made tabouli using Matthew Kenney's idea of sprouted quinoa instead of shredded cauliflower a la Matt Amsden. It's really nice!

:)

[pinklemonade]

good evening.... i know it is late... but i needed to ask something and would like some thoughts from anybody....

ok, as mentioned, i am getting my period soon.... but here is my concern...
i am usually on time, and it is past due...
ok maybe something to do with mc??
and yes, i consumed chocolate like cookie monster eats his cookies!! and i usually get a few pimples here and there.... but they are spreading out!!! it is scary.... they are on my cheeks, around my mouth... i feel there is something going on.....

has anyone experienced like this after your first mc????

thanks for your help in advance!!

good nite:)

[pinklemonade]

Pink: There's a trick and it's "filling up on salad" first. Too boring, you say? Not so. Fit for Life, Mercola and all the other raw food recipes books will give you gazillions of "different" salads. Make a 10 day salad menu and rotate the salads. One could be a mandarin orange chinese salad. Another could be raw homemade coleslaw and we don't want to forgot the Salad free for all with dark greens, avocados, tom, walnuts dried cranberries etc. Once you eat your salad you're less tempted.

Now as far as chocolate goes I'm right there with you. Someone in the Recipe box is a raw chocolate sauce. I never tried it but Kathy made it a lot! Do a search for Teepee's chocolate sauce. ;) Or just eat some dark chocolate with no more than 4 grams of sugar. Wait, is that right? Yeah I think so. hahah


The lite beer is no biggie. The crappy cheese bread is though. lol Did you enjoy it? If so then let it go. If not then next time you won't be inclined to eat it.

They served mobs of pizza at work on Thursday but I thought back to the last time I ate it and I felt like crap in about 2 hours. It wasn't worth the horrid feelings later on. If you're going to blow it, do it on something that's a great quality. There's a bakery around the corner from my house. Once every 3 or 4 months I'll get a scone or an eclair. They use top notch ingredients and I never feel like crap afterwards BUT if I do this often I'll blow up like a blimp faster than usual.

You're doing fine. Stay prepared and always (try to) have something healthy on hand to eat first! :)[/QUOTE]



res,
thank you very much for your wise advise and suggestions!!
green does it!! i have been drinking green juice in a morning for a week. i guess i could use more of that green juice as well.... also yes, i was kind of getting tired of SALAD for lunch.... i will try new tricks!! again thank you~~:D:D

best,

tomoko

[Res]

CStar: Thanks :)

I start the probiotics Day 1 of breaking the cleanse and it works for me.

[Res]

Kathy: I've been eyeing that recipe as well. I have all the ingredients but get concerned about the "grains", although he soothes by saying he doesn't usually use grains either. I suppose if he can try it I can too! :)

[Res]

tomoko: Peter mentions this in the book and also in the "for women" thread (although I can't remember exactly where). The missed period is common (he says). I'm not sure why. You may want to search the thread for reasons. :)

Regarding the chocolate: I really REALLY hate to say this but each time I cleanse and break the cleanse I'm allergic to more and more foods. What kind of chocolate are you eating? It could be the brand. Like for instance, Hersheys isn't chocolate. :o Organic dark chocolate works for me. So does Mercola's coco cassava bars. (I've already propsed to the bars 100 times. "Will you marry me?" ;)) They're so good.

Well it's back to work for me. :)

[CStar]

just did oj yesterday and this am. I think it spiked my bs way too much. just had soup...everything seems to give me a little gas..weird.

[Res]

CStar: Water down the OJ. I can't break the cleanse with OJ because it's too sweet. Glad the soup helped calm things down. :)

[Res]

Computer still has a virus. :mad:

Car was completely dead when I tried to go to work this morning. :mad:

Was scheduled to work the upcoming 3 day weekend without being told. :mad:

Computer still has a virus. :mad:

I don't have to work this weekend :D

Batter is in car and it runs now. :D

What a difference a few hours can make. LOL Anyway that Vanilla rasp granola is amazing AS is the blueberry.

I'm thinking raw pizza but I'm tuckered out at the moment. I think I'll try Kenney's recipe which is completely different from Cohens (I really like hers) but Kenney seems to make most things tast Normal. :)

So what's up? Where is everybody? Are you having days like mine? ;)

Whats in the dehydrator? What's soaking? Whatcha making?

Tanya: Where are you? :)

[Betty09]

Hi Res! Sorry to hear about your day, then happy to hear how it ended up. I had that day yesterday. So, I had some tests run and I'd like to share:

Before the cleanse (April 2008 )
Cholesterol - 205
Triglycerides - 141
HDL - 57
LDL - 118
High density lipoprotein - 3.6

Last week
Cholesterol - 152
Triglycerides - 89
HDL - 79
LDL - 55
High density lipoprotein - 1.9

And, I'm excited about all this...... everyone should do a before and after chem panel just for "proof" if you aren't already convinced. A friend of mine has high blood pressure and he's 24....... I told his wife to call me when he wants to try something new. :)

Also... remember how I have been craving avocados and fish (sushi), well turns out I have a vitamin D deficiency...... guess what's in those! So I need fish and sunlight. lol Any other recommendations regarding the vitamin D?

[kiropa]

Holy crow -- that is AMAZING!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing. I am back anew -- when did you cleanse? For how long? Do tell, do tell!!!!!


Hi Res! Sorry to hear about your day, then happy to hear how it ended up. I had that day yesterday. So, I had some tests run and I'd like to share:

Before the cleanse (April 2008 )
Cholesterol - 205
Triglycerides - 141
HDL - 57
LDL - 118
High density lipoprotein - 3.6

Last week
Cholesterol - 152
Triglycerides - 89
HDL - 79
LDL - 55
High density lipoprotein - 1.9

And, I'm excited about all this...... everyone should do a before and after chem panel just for "proof" if you aren't already convinced. A friend of mine has high blood pressure and he's 24....... I told his wife to call me when he wants to try something new. :)

Also... remember how I have been craving avocados and fish (sushi), well turns out I have a vitamin D deficiency...... guess what's in those! So I need fish and sunlight. lol Any other recommendations regarding the vitamin D?

[dollfacegreene]

Hello everyone!! I have been out of touch lately and wanted to check back in. I have also lost 2 more pounds post cleanse and pushing to lose10 pounds more. I also wanted to reenforce the importance of probiotics. After the cleanse I had a hard time going to the bathroom (no BM for 2-3 days). After I started eating yoplait plus and increasing my raw intake, everything went back to normal. I am having 2 good bm's a day, I mean good ones. SOOOOOOO Don't forget to take Your probiotics. I have also added green smoothies as per suggestions from you guys. Awesome. If anyone has a recipe for green swiss chard I would love to hear about it.

RES: Guess what! I have had the luxury of having my 2 youngest grandkids staying with me for the week and I am loving it. Grandson 8 yrs, 8) Granddaughter 4 yrs. :D We went to the Silveton Casino to see the huge aquarium and watch them feed the fish and stingrays and see the mermaids. The looks on their faces was too cool. If you ever come to Vegas you have to check it out. Enjoy your precious one.

Good luck to all

[Coley]

I'm gearing up to get off the cleanse and I have a few questions: Is Miso soup and tofu okay? Also I want to make a veggie soup but,by definition, that means cooking the vegetables- when can I move from the OJ and raw fruits and veggies to the cooked soup?
I'm having separation anxiety already and I don't want to get sick as I come back to the "foodie" world. I will keep on making the lemonade through the end of the month until I get the nerve to take a bite-- I feel too good right now!

[Res]

Betty: That info is spectacular! :) Dr Mercola says that most of the population is Vit D deficient. His #1 source is the sun. Says you should get 20 min of sun per day on as much exposed skin as possible. Not always possible though.

:)

[Res]

Kiropa! Nice to see you again and welcome back!

Seriously am looking forward to the April Cleanse. :)

[Res]

Coley: There are soup recipes in this forum.

Per "The book ;)" you start out on OJ - then follow the instructions for soup on Day 3. I think miso is fine.

[Res]

Dollface: Welcome Back and congrats on the extra weight loss! Woo Hooo! :D

How fun for you with the grandkids! :) I get to see the little angel this weekend. Her mom keeps me updated with photos.

[pinklemonade]

hello everyone!!

happy friday and i am excited for a long weekend!!:D:D

i have been drinking green juice every morning and fruits until lunch and salad for lunch and dinner salad with avocado etc, snacking in between (some cheating included:p).

as i mentioned, it seems l am skipping my period this month.. HOWEVER, i feel i am bloated..i gain 2-3lb...crazy craving for sweet... by the way RES, i eat green & black dark chocolate 85%.... :p:p

i am trying to eat or drink green before my crazy cravings and i think i have been doing a ok....
but but BUT:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: my face is continued to break out!!!!:mad::mad:
i go bathroom 3-5 times a day!! i just don't understand what is going on my body....
my energy level seems to be set so i feel good. EXCEPT for this bloated stomach and my moon surface zits land!!!!!:mad::mad:

any feedback would be super appreciated it!!!

have a wonderful firday!!!:D

tomoko

[Res]

tomoko: Sounds like your body is still getting rid of junk. Especially if you're drinking green juices. mmm :)

The computer virus that I got from typing in "the name of a raw food chef" has taken its toll on my computer. What a battle and it's not over yet. The little bugger is evading all my attempts at getting rid of it and I'm pretty good at getting rid of things like that.

Word of warning: Always Google the info first and don't assume the chef's name will be his official website name. :mad:

I had a craving for eggs and avocado this morning so I made an omelet. Yum. I bought a fresh assortment of organic veggies that I'm looking forward to this long weekend. :)

I hope everyone's doing well.

[Tanyazl1]

Hello Everyone! I'm back...today is my 16th day of a 100% RAW diet.

RES Sorry to hear you are still battling with computer issues :( I feel your pain. I hope you can rid your computer of them really soon. How did we manage before this great technology :confused: Please don answer that...I actually remember. :eek: And Res, thanks for the shout-out as the kids say. I read a few of you posts...we have some things in common. I TOO love scones :D I have two favs...currant ( WOW...to die for) and then there's cornbread and cherry(yum, yum). And, yes too many of them result in a body type, health challenges, and an attitude I do not want. :rolleyes: And, I can't stand a cold SWF; I prefer room temp.

Hey Great People~ Although I haven't checked in for a while, I have often thought about you and your journey towards optimum health. Bring me up to speed...What's in your dehydrator :confused: What did you find tasty?

Well, I have been dehydrating my you-know-what-off and lovin' it. :D I cannot take full credit, I must say my husband helps a lot, more than a lot. He's retired and prepares most all of our uncooked and vegan meals and my lunch M-F. But, this last week I wanted to take the lead. If I leave it up to him we would survive on salads, green smoothies, avacodo, nuts, and beer. I don't drink beer. I prefer red wine. Anyway, I am proud to say I made my second batch of Matthew Kenney's golden tortilla chips and raspberry vanilla-almond granola. They are very tasty. Today, the blueberry pancakes and eggplant bacon are on their last stretch in the deydrator (The pancakes were sweet enough with the agave nectar for our taste; so, we skipped the maple syrup.) we taste-tested both...:D:D:D Yes. (I used frozen blueberries). Earlier in the week I made the portobello sausages. Good, but on the dry side. My next batch will be much better. Also, I made Ani Phyo's sun burger for the second time this week. This time I also made the black sesame sunflower bread and sun-dried tomato catsup. OMG:eek::D It is sooo goooood.

Well, gotta go...my hubby just served avocado and homemade salsa. 'can't wait to hear your uncooking adventures. Oh, I stumbled across a thread for a 30 day raw challenge not sure if this thread replaced it. I'll try to keep eye on it.

Until next time, I wish you good health, success in your strivings, and pleasing tastes and textures of cooked or raw, vegetarian or vegan cuisine :D

Ciao

[tenderhearted]

Hi all. I just finished the cleanse about 3 days ago. Now my problem is that everything tastes sooooo good. I really have to be careful that i don't overeat. Yikes. I found the cleanse surprisingly refreshing although the first 3 days were really rough and I found that I was really hungry during the cleanse. But I feel so much better and I am very glad that I did it. I also plan on doing the cleanse again later on but how long should I wait before doing it again? Also where do you find the recipes can you help? thanks very much.

[Res]

Tanya: Yes, the 30 day raw challenge is in this forum. :) So glad to hear from you!

I had to laugh when you said your hubby was dehydrating things. :) That's so cool!! Omg I can't wait to hear about the eggplant bacon. And the pancakes definitely caught my eye! It's on my list of to-do's. :)

Tenderhearted: Only do the cleanse up to 4 times a year. You do deplete the body when cleansing so it's important to give yourself time to nourish your body before cleansing again.

Recipes are in the "lemonhead recipe box" in this forum.

I usually really hungry after finishing my cleanses too - so I make a 2 week menu and stick to it. I don't think you can eat too many salads. :)

[CStar]

ergh...I was doing really well, not doing Raw, but all vegatables basically, with healthy oils, and feeling great. Had a few glasses of wine, which lead to a cheeseburger, then a terrible hangover with junkfood. The hangover and and bad eating lasted 2 days, and now I feel awful. I'm doing a mini cleanse....3 days I think. I just feel gross, fat and disappointed.

Lesson to be learned...watch the booze intake after this it hits you way harder than before

[pinklemonade]

hi everyone,

i am experiencing very hard adjustment of my new eating style.
i
i FEEL that i NEED to eat constantly....
because of that reason, i FEEL that I SHOULD eat something even i am not that hungry.
when i consume alcohol, my craving for BAAAAAD food gets worse. but i would like to enjoy my wine occasionally....

Has anyone experienced similar to mine???

And res- thanks for your wise advise and comment. they make me feel ease!!


thanks!!

tomoko

[CStar]

yes pinned it right on the nose pink!! I am trying to reteach myself limits, and its tough. Im fine until I drink....or when Ive had too much...so Im trying to figure out those limits. I feel like I used to be more disciplined in a way. I know I have a lot of issues w/ food but C'MON!!!

[Res]

I go through the same thing when I drink wine. It's an "appetizer" for me so I have to be really careful. Plus it causes me to throw caution to the wind and I'll end up justifying eating something bad. This is just an acknowledgment that I don't eat for hunger at those times, it's something entirely different - like socialization or something.

I have an idea though - prior to drinking the wine, I'm going to make my safe "snacks" and make it appetizing. I'll make sure no "junk" is around (which is rare to have it in the house) and I don't drive and drink so that's not a problem. By the way, I think a homemade cheeseburger is fine - omit the bun and wrap it in romaine lettuce. Use "raw milk cheese" which tastes the same - and do the usual with organic mustard/ketsup and pile on the raw things you like including pickles. :)

[unekmama]

Can someone please tell me where I can find the recipes everyone talks about? Are they listed some where or do I have to go through the threads to find them?? I'm only on day 3 of MC but want to start learning about the raw food recipes..

Thanks

[Tanyazl1]

Can someone please tell me where I can find the recipes everyone talks about? Are they listed some where or do I have to go through the threads to find them?? I'm only on day 3 of MC but want to start learning about the raw food recipes..

Thanks

Hi Unekmama, If you are referring to any of my threads and Res's replies to them, I'm talking about Matthew Kenney's "everydayraw" and Ani Phyo's "ani's raw food kithchen." I have several uncook books, but these are my favorites. Res has recommended viewing cautiously when you are cleansing. I would have to agree. I found I could read about raw dishes and be strong enough to finish my cleanse:rolleyes:, but look out stomach when I've finished my cleanse! LOL! :D :( By now you may have found that this site also has a thread for raw recipes.

If you are new to the raw-vegan world, I would recommend Victoria Boutenko's "12 Steps to Raw Foods: How to End Your Dependency on Cooked Food" and "Green for Life." You are on the brink of awakening to an entirely wholesome, life-promoting, health optimizing, and very exiting new world.

Ciao!

Tanya

[unekmama]

Hi Unekmama, If you are referring to any of my threads and Res's replies to them, I'm talking about Matthew Kenney's "everydayraw" and Ani Phyo's "ani's raw food kithchen." I have several uncook books, but these are my favorites. Res has recommended viewing cautiously when you are cleansing. I would have to agree. I found I could read about raw dishes and be strong enough to finish my cleanse:rolleyes:, but look out stomach when I've finished my cleanse! LOL! :D :( By now you may have found that this site also has a thread for raw recipes.

If you are new to the raw-vegan world, I would recommend Victoria Boutenko's "12 Steps to Raw Foods: How to End Your Dependency on Cooked Food" and "Green for Life." You are on the brink of awakening to an entirely wholesome, life-promoting, health optimizing, and very exiting new world.

Ciao!

Tanya

Thanks Tanya, I had not discovered the thread with recipes. After reading your response I figured it out, LOL! I did buy a book RAWSOME that includes many recipes. I will try your suggested book too.

[Tanyazl1]

Hello Everyone :) ! Can you believe it is already March! Wow how time flies. After eating 100% raw for 30 days, I can say I never felt better :D. But, the entire month I was challenged by the smell of a coworkers jasmine rice :o. So this past week I couldn't wait to eat organic cooked vegan dishes with organic jasmine rice and quinoa pasta. I also dined out with SAD friends (Standard American Diet) 8). Even though I chose my dishes wisely, I experienced headaches and felt very tired upon rising by the fourth morning :(. In hindsight, I would say that I experience the symptoms of a hangover. Can you believe it! A food hangover :eek: To top it off, I had an allergic reaction to something I ate :eek::eek:.

Well I'm a believer :)! I have found I experience optimum health, you know...more energy, having a clear mind, empowered to handle life's challenges, and avoid allergies when I consume raw foods :D. My plan is to detox on spring water, Victoria's green smoothies, and fruits and green salads :D:D. You know, a raw diet, except for an occasional cooked meal when I dine out with SAD family and friends :D.

[Nymue]

Hey Tanyazl1, sounds like you have a good plan in place! :D I am not doing the 30 day challenge - more of a lifestyle change. 100% raw is not for me, at least not at this point, but I am aiming for about 80-90% raw for the most part. I still have either coffee or tea every day, and a drink on a few nights a week. I am trying to confine my cooked food intake to special occasions (holidays, etc.) and eating out at restaurants.

I just finished reading Victoria's 12 Steps to Raw Foods. I devoured that book! I think the information she provides is a really strong tool for transitioning to a raw food lifestyle. I also got Jennifer Cornbleet's recipe book (Raw Made Easy for 1 or 2 people). I have made a couple of her recipes so far, and they have all turned out wonderfully! I had some yummy raw stuffed mushrooms yesterday and am planning to try the apple pie sometime this week. I've always loved food and loved trying new recipes, and raw just opens up a whole new world to me. :D

I finished my Master Cleanse just over a week ago, and so far I am actually just a little bit under my ending weight. I am thrilled about that! I also just feel better overall - I'm excited to continue exploring the world of raw and the health benefits that I can gain. I didn't go to hot yoga while I was cleansing, so I am ready to get back into that and have also started doing some workout DVDs that were sitting on my shelf for months!

I think that cleansing for 10 days is the right amount of time for me. My first cleanse was 20 days, and by the time it ended, I was craving EVERYTHING! Though I broke that fast properly, it didn't take me long to start indulging in all of the naughty foods I had been dreaming about during my cleanse. It basically backfired on me. This time I made sure not to think about food as much as I could - no cooking shows, no food commercials, no recipe reading! Instead I focused on how good I was feeling and thought about how I could best maintain it. I am thinking that I may do another cleanse sometime in July. 8)

[Tanyazl1]

Hey Nymue, Sound like you have a pretty good plan, too. My husband, the primary uncook chef in our home, has enjoyed preparing Jennifer Cornbleet recipes. I, of course, enjoy eating them, LOL.:D And, yes, we have tried the mushrooms...yum 8).

You are on the right path. I believe we each get to tailor a pilgrimage that fits our individual lifestyle and taste. Thank you for sharing your journey. It seems we have had similar experiences. I look forward to reading more of your posts.

[kellilynne]

Hello.... I haven't been posting, but I just did the cleanse for 10 days! yey! Today was my first day off the cleanse. I made "green lemonade" today... 1bunch of celery, 6 stalks of kale, 2 red apples, a whole lemon, 1/2 inch of ginger root (juiced it all up & it made 32oz) took it to work with me today and drank about 12oz... I ate some brocoli and cauliflower and carrots too, but that hurt my stomach really bad... I ate 4 strawberries for dinner... I hope I'm not rushing back into food too quickly but, I'm hungry!!!! Also, I was wondering how long it took everyone to have a BM after finishing the cleanse.. I feel weird that I haven't gone yet today! Should I still be drinking the tea and doing the salt water flush? I feel like the book did really spend much time on that...

[Tanyazl1]

Kellilynne, I know what you mean. I was starving after my first MC. I break my fasts the Stanley Burroughs way with two days of fresh-squeezed OJ. Peter recommends the Burroughs way on page 55 of his book. I love this soup (Burroughs book page 26)! After my January 09 fast and two days of FS-OJ, I broke my fast with the raw vegetable soup below. Please be kind to your digestive system. It would hate to hear that you've sensitize your digestive track to the point it prevents you from eating the foods you love, or future MC fasts. You can find more topics in the link at the bottom of this email.

Review this link for safe ways to break the fast:http://www.therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25587&postcount=28

This link has information regarding BMs after the cleanse:http://www.therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27042&postcount=33

Vegetable Soup for the Master Cleanse
Submitted by SimplyRaw on August 15, 2007 - 10:16am
Servings:* serves 8 to 10 people
I found this vegetable soup recipe on the www.therawfoodsite.com
I think the person who posted it might be a member of this site.
The recipe is in “The Complete Book of Raw Food” by Lori Baird.
It is a Wonderful Vegetable Soup to use when you are ending the Master Cleanse!
Very Refreshing!!!
Ingredients:*
10 to 11 fresh Roma tomatoes, chopped
½ red or yellow onion, peeled and chopped
4 cloves garlic, peeled
fresh basil to taste
fresh dill to taste
2 tablespoon fresh squeezed lemon juice
Celtic sea salt to taste
2 tablespoon olive oil
1/8 to 1/4 cup of raisins
1 to 2 red bell peppers
¼ jalapeno pepper (optional)
1 cup sun-dried tomatoes, finely chopped then divided
1 avocado, cubed
1 ear of corn cut from the cob
½ sweet yellow pepper
finely chopped parsley for garnish
Preparation:*
In a blender combine 6 of the tomatoes with the onion, garlic, basil, dill, lemon juice, sea salt, olive oil, raisins, red bell pepper, jalapeno, and 1/2 cup water. Blend well. Add 1/2 cup of the sun-dried tomatoes, a little at a time. Blend well.
In a large bowl, combine the avocado, remaining fresh and dried tomatoes, corn and the sweet yellow pepper. Pour the blended mixture over the chopped veggies and stir well. Garnish with parsley.

[1 of no other]

Hi,

I am on my second day after a 10 day cleanse. Yesterday, I had about 3-4 oranges worth of orange juice. That's not very much, but it's about all I had at the time. The book says to drink more OJ on the second day, and have vegetable soup for dinner. However, my question is how to get or make this vegetable soup? Are there certain vegetables we should go for, or ones we should avoid? Also, what can we cook it with? My mom boiled the soup broth using fresh chicken, thinking that the nutrious juices from the chicken will make a great broth. She also included broccoli, cabbage, carrots, and potatoes. I left out the chicken and potatoes. But can we eat the soup broth with the broccoli, cabbage, and carrots? Or is the poultry broth too heavy or not good for us? And the SITE/BULLETIN BOARD says that if we're used to eating meat and drinking milk or dairy products, we should have fresh fruit and a raw salad on the second day. But the BOOK says to only have OJ and vegetable soup on the 2nd day, and to have fresh fruit and salad and soup on the third day. I'm confused. Any suggestions?

[Tanyazl1]

Hi,

I am on my second day after a 10 day cleanse. Yesterday, I had about 3-4 oranges worth of orange juice. That's not very much, but it's about all I had at the time. The book says to drink more OJ on the second day, and have vegetable soup for dinner. However, my question is how to get or make this vegetable soup? Are there certain vegetables we should go for, or ones we should avoid? Also, what can we cook it with? My mom boiled the soup broth using fresh chicken, thinking that the nutrious juices from the chicken will make a great broth. She also included broccoli, cabbage, carrots, and potatoes. I left out the chicken and potatoes. But can we eat the soup broth with the broccoli, cabbage, and carrots? Or is the poultry broth too heavy or not good for us? And the SITE/BULLETIN BOARD says that if we're used to eating meat and drinking milk or dairy products, we should have fresh fruit and a raw salad on the second day. But the BOOK says to only have OJ and vegetable soup on the 2nd day, and to have fresh fruit and salad and soup on the third day. I'm confused. Any suggestions?

1 of no other, I had written quite a bit for you but I timed out and it got lost. Peter's book, page 55, directs you to page 25-27of Stanley Burroughs book. In a nut shell if you are a former meat eater: First day, several 8 oz glasses of fresh squeezed OJ. Second day, repeat the first day and have it with extra water if you find it too acidic or heavy. Third day, OJ in the morning, soup for lunch, and vegetables, salad, or fruit for dinner. No meat, fish, eggs, bread, pastries, tea, coffee, or milk. Fourth day, resume normal eating, but have the lemonade or fruit for breakfast.

I love Stanley Burroughs' vegetable soup recipe:
Use several kinds of vegetables, one or two kinds of legumes, potatoes, celery, carrots, green vegetable tops, onion, etc. Dehydrated vegetables or vegetable soup powders may be added for extra flavor. Okra or okra powder, chili, curry, cayenne pepper, tomatoes, green peppers, and zucchini squash may be included to good advantage. Brown rice may be used, but not meat or meat stock. Other spices may be added (delicately) for flavor. Use salt delicately as a limited amount of salt is necessary. The less cooking the better. Read the special article on salt in the September 1077 issue of National Geographic magazine.

If you want a raw vegetable soup for after the cleanse, see my posting on March 12.

I hope this helps :D

[lorene]

Hi everyone, I have a dilemma. First, I am on day 6, that's not the problem. My husband promised to take me to my favorite restaurant on our next date night which happens to be two days after I finish the cleanse. This is his way of being supportive and encouraging. The restaurant is Japanese, lots of raw. Is this okay? Can I get away with eating and not feel sick. Another question; does eating raw include raw fish or beef? Also, when is it okay to have alcohol? Please Help. I want desperately to enjoy a Sat. night with the hubby- not end up feeling nausea and getting sick.

[Tanyazl1]

Hi everyone, I have a dilemma. First, I am on day 6, that's not the problem. My husband promised to take me to my favorite restaurant on our next date night which happens to be two days after I finish the cleanse. This is his way of being supportive and encouraging. The restaurant is Japanese, lots of raw. Is this okay? Can I get away with eating and not feel sick. Another question; does eating raw include raw fish or beef? Also, when is it okay to have alcohol? Please Help. I want desperately to enjoy a Sat. night with the hubby- not end up feeling nausea and getting sick.

Hi Lorene! Dates with the hubby are great :p! Maybe you can renegotiate how you spend it this time since it happens so soon after the cleanse.8)

Take a look at my recent posts over the past few days. Also, use the link below for Newbies. You will find loads of information there to help with your transition. In some arenas raw includes fish or meat, but not this one. The MC book promotes a vegetable based life style. The people I have met on this site tend to be vegan, vegetarian, RAW-VEGAN :D, or practice a very balanced standard diet. Yeah! Dead foods :eek:: meat, fish, poultry, milk, dairy, flour, pastries, bread, pasta, and rice, should be eaten in moderation. You don't want to undo your progress and quickly lose the benefits of the fast. Also, it may be too soon for alcohol.

I hope you are cautious. You are about to transition from detoxing your body and your system is vulnerable and sensitive.

[SHM]

Hi new member PLEASE HELP!
it's my 2nd day post MC (my first one - I went 10 days ) -- been following instructions per Burroughs except for adding a bit of fruit today. just had soup for dinner. yesterday (with only OJ) I felt great - LOTS of energy! but today..... why do I feel awful? I am so tired, I can hardly play with my 4 year old, I'm getting chills, weakness and feel FAMISHED. from what I've read on the posts above it sounds like I might be still in "detox" mode, but I'm a little concerned and need encouragement! how long does detox mode last? I don't plan on going all raw, though I do eat something raw everyday. HELP! Thanks! :)

[Tanyazl1]

SHM, What a downer...look to the positive side, you are probably almost out of the woods by now. You'll be fine just give it some time. If you haven't read this link, you may find its contents useful. http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=619 It says your symptoms will last about four hours. But, no one can really predict this. Keep in touch and let us know how you are doing. Take care, rest, and take your time introducing new foods and savor them. Best.

[UTRAVELSTAT.COM]

Hello everyone. I'm on my day 5 of my very first Master Cleansing, and so far so good. I had some craving during day 4 but I was able to get through the day fine.

Before I started the cleans, I would eat junk foods, meat, drink soda more than I drink water on a daily basis. I was looking through the internet about Low Carb, Low Fat Vegetarian diet, and I think I'm going to try that after I break the cleansing on the tenth day.

So far I've lost 11 pounds, my goal is to lose atleast 22 or even 25 pounds. I would like to keep losing weight after I'm done with the cleanse, I am 5'2" and was 205 lbs before the cleansing, now I'm down to 194 lbs, so I still have a lot to lose.

It's a new life for me, and hopefully I can encourage my husband to do the cleansing with me sometime in June, which would be my 2nd MS. He said he'd try it, we'll see :rolleyes:

I feel more energized, happy and cleansed. I'm halfway there, and I'm so happy to have found the MS, and this Bulletin Board.

Thank you everyone for all your encouragements. God Bless You All.

[Tanyazl1]

Congratulations Ultravelstat.com...:D:D:D

I don't know if you've read some of the posts regarding what to do if you find yourself in a weight loss slump. If not, Burroughs says its okay to reduce the maple syrup, but never vary the amount of lemon juice per glass. Also, it takes about three days to break the MC. There are a lot of good posts about this in addition to the books by Peter Glickman and Stanley Burroughs. I know you are extremely pumped about your success and rightfully so...Whoohoooooo! I wish you continued success! :)

[UTRAVELSTAT.COM]

Congratulations Ultravelstat.com...:D:D:D

I don't know if you've read some of the posts regarding what to do if you find yourself in a weight loss slump. If not, Burroughs says its okay to reduce the maple syrup, but never vary the amount of lemon juice per glass. Also, it takes about three days to break the MC. There are a lot of good posts about this in addition to the books by Peter Glickman and Stanley Burroughs. I know you are extremely pumped about your success and rightfully so...Whoohoooooo! I wish you continued success! :)

Hiya Tanyazl1, thanks so much :) Yeah I've read about how and what I needed to do when breaking the fast. Made a list, and got all the information I need, Thanks again. This is why I like this board, there's an overwhelming motivation and encouragement, as well as help from everyone, and I do appreciate that. Happy cleansing!!

[UTRAVELSTAT.COM]

End of Day 10 and I've done a lot of reading and research on how to break the fast safely. I am excited and got a lot of great recipe for Raw foods from Res.

I'm a little nervous about breaking the fast. I don't feel hungry at all. Another thing does anyone know a website where I can buy raw nuts and seeds, I'd like to compare prices between on-line stores and the health food store we have here in our area, maybe I can get them cheaper on-line, any suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much.

[Tanyazl1]

Hi Utravelstat.com aka Maria,

Congratulations! on completing your MC. I don't know of any sites for raw nuts and seeds. If you plan to sprout starwest-botanicals.com is a good site. We purchase all of our raw nuts and seeds locally. I have found that consuming nut in excess of the RDA tends to lead to weight gain. I also learned a raw-high-caloric diet leads to weight gain just as fast as the SAD diet :eek:. In that respect, calories are Calories :mad:.

If you don't already do so,consume 1/2 your weight in ounces of spring water daily when you are not cleansing. This tends to ward off dehydration and tendencies to mistake thirst for hunger. Also, Victoria Boutenko is a great resource for increasing green vegetables in your diet....go to rawfamily.com for green smoothie recipes. 8) Have you seen the 30 day raw diet challenge on this site. There were a few posts there for additional raw food tips.

Hi Res! I miss talking to you!

[UTRAVELSTAT.COM]

Hiya Tanyazl1, thanks so much. You're absolutely right about consuming excess nuts. Last thing I want is to gain the weight back:eek:. I purchased more greens today and tons of bottled water. My stomach did well today, after I had an ounce of the fresh squeezed OJ. I also did some research about the portions and correct servings of calorie, protein, etc intake per day, that I need.

I've made a list of the portions and types of raw food I will be eating for the next 3 months, before doing the cleanse again, just so I don't get off track.

Thank you so much for the site info. I will check them out tonight.

Take care everyone..:)

[melisawaltz]

This is best answered by listening to your body. Ultimately you are the best judge of your needs and if you intuitively feel now is the time for you to cleanse, then do so.

[ecuapuerto]

Well I finish my M/C. I did 20 days I can't believe I lasted that long. I was aiming for 40 days but I missed the eating. I am not talking about the junk food but just having solids. I have been cooking all these days for my family and I would say I have enjoyed seeing them eating. Every time they eat a drank a glass of the lemonade. Now I am on the OJ and vege broth. This is my second day after the fasting. I have to say that I did loose 15 pounds and for the reason I will change my eating habits. So that I can continue to loose some more and live a healthier life. More raw veggies, fruits and fiber into my diet.

[Res]

Nice ecuapuerto! :)

[healthforlife]

I just came off the cleanse. I was on it for 14 days and feel great. I am on the 4th day off and the problem that i am having is that i seem to gain all the weight back really fast, even though I am vegan and eat mainly raw. Does anyone else have this problem coming off the cleanse.

[sadsak39]

Healthforlife-Yes! I found a great transition last year, and posted the link, but it was lost with most of last Feb.-Mar. postings. I'll find it and post it for you tomorrow. It's another detox called the Swiss Detox Diet, but it uses food rather than lemonade, and is the perfect transition to healthful eating. You'll lose about 1 LB. a day on it, even after coming off of the cleanse. You can Google it for information, the MD. who developed it is world renowned and has two clinics (one in Switzerland- hence the name), where he uses it to treat serious diseases. I bought the book, and posted the weekly diet for members to try before buying the book. You'll love it. Good Luck!:):):)

[sadsak39]

Healthforlife- I didn't forget- I just didn't find it , yet. I'll locate it and post it tomorrow.:):):)

[sadsak39]

I just came off the cleanse. I was on it for 14 days and feel great. I am on the 4th day off and the problem that i am having is that i seem to gain all the weight back really fast, even though I am vegan and eat mainly raw. Does anyone else have this problem coming off the cleanse.

healthforlife- here's the link I told you about. It's a good start.

Click Here to Download (http://www.camollamas.com/public/Swis Detox Diet.zip)

[marsh]

hello out there.....

i'm on day 1 post cleanse. anyone interested in transitioning to healthy eating with me?? i'm down 10 pounds and want to loose another 10. and- most important, i want to maintain this great, light, clear feeling as i start to eat healthy again. anyone out there??

[marsh]

i'm still around....day 3 post cleanse.
is anyone else out there coming off the cleanse??

[sadsak39]

Hi marsh- I'm sure someone will be finishing soon. I think danceshine should be off of her post cleanse today or tomorrow, maybe she'll check in. I have another ten or so days, but if you're still around, I'll gladly partner. I think it's so much easier with support. I'm determined to get into a bikini this year!:D:D:D

[marsh]

hi sadsak-
thanks for the reply and offer to partner with me. not sure if i'll still be ahnging around in 10 days, but who knows....
good luck with your cleanse!
marsh

[dvdrumls]

can you tell me what are the chances for side effect.

[Bobolink]

Sadsac , I'm just about to finish my first cleanse and I must say I feel so much energy.I hope this will change my eating habits.Wonder what a senior member means?This bulletin board is confusing to me. I notice a lot of people will do this clesnse several times a year.Think I might do every four months. Bobolink

[mtmouse]

Bobolink,

The designations Newbie, Junior Member, Member, and Senior Member have to do only with how many times you have posted. It's a function of the software, not the poster's credentials. :)

[Molunat]

marsh, if you are still around, I'm going to be on this thread for a few days. Today's my first day post MC. I made it to 14 days. I could have gone on, but I wanted to stop while I was still feeling good about MC (it's easier for me to get back to it if I still have some desire left).
Had my OJ. I did some raw food shopping yesterday. I'm lucky that I have several raw food stores around me. I'm sprouting chickpeas, so I can make something with them in a couple of days. I would like to stick to as much raw food as I can (I have some dinner dates with friends ahead, so I'll eat cooked as well).

Anyway, I read some of the posts on this thread and found great advice already.:)


MC 1 - 10 days
MC 2 - 10 days
MC 3 - 13 days
MC 4 - 14 days

[Molunat]

As usual, sadsak, has great links and info to share.;)

[marsh]

hi molunat, congrats on 14 days! that's great. i'm still around. i'm about 6 days post cleanse now, and this is the first time i have not gained any of the weight back. in fact, i've lost 2 more pounds, only 7 more to go until i'm back to "normal" and my jeans fit me again.

but much, much better than the weight loss, which is really great, i feel so energized and clear and so motivated. i attribute that to cleansing for 12 days and then following with raw foods that are ALIVE. what a huge difference it's making for me. i have to say, also, that for me, transitioning to food with something raw made all the difference. i made raw soup (just blended veggies with a little water, there's a recipe on one of these threads...) instead of the cooked. if i can give anyone advice on transitioning to more raw after the cleanse, i would say, without a doubt, forget the cooked soup. that's what worked for me, anyway.

i've tried to eat more raw several times over the past few years, and while i felt great while doing it, i was like a policeman to myself with the food. i was way to hard on myself and also pretty unrealistic, i think. this time around, i really want to maintain a good balance for the long haul, so i'm not being so rigid about it. a little something cooked here and there is something i'm really ok with. i'm probably about 90-95% raw now. that's way better than what i did before. and like i said, the weight is still falling off and i feel great!

ok. no more writing. (see how energized i am??!!) hope you're having a great day, molunat, and keep me posted on how you're doing.

[Molunat]

marsh, that's great! Good for you. It seems that you came to that point when your mind is determined and you don't have to fight urges all the time. The soup sounds great. I'll look for the recipe. I'm, also, thinking about making gazpacho. I saw some heirloom tomatoes at the supermarket today and they looked yummy.
My goal is not to lose more weight (right now I am 4 lbs below what looks good on me), but to bring my body fat percentage back to 17%-18%, which is what it was two years ago. I was able to maintain it by running long distance. In fact, I expect to gain muscle weight as soon as I hit the pavement.

I'm sprouting chickpeas, but I just read that uncooked chickpeas may be toxic. I don't know... I'm not sure what to do with them.

[marsh]

molunat- sprouted chickpeas are wonderful and healthy and delicious. use them! you can make raw hummus, or put them in a salad, or even make raw chickpea bread if you have a dehydrator. there is so much you can do with them. they are sort of starchy, which is good if you're not wanting to loose weight. do you have any raw books? i just bought 2 and they are super helpful.

there are several raw soup recipes here in the lemonhead recipe box thread, or just google raw soup and a bunch will come up. mine was really simple. i can give you my recipe if you don't find one you like. it has a tomato "broth" (with fresh basil, a few soaked raisins, lemon juice, some jalepeno and a little salt all blended together), with avocado, corn, and bell peppers cut up and added to the broth. i guess i just gave you the recipe! it's so easy, just add or delete to your preference.

i'm glad you're hanging around after the cleanse, i'll be here for a while so i have support. i really want to keep a good thing going, and i'm the only one in my house doing this. i'm the cook, though, so i'm hoping to slowly convert my husband and daughter. ;) or at least offer more raw options.

good luck with your chickpeas and soup!

[Nesteuo]

Hello to all, I would like to know about steamed food, is it close too raw food or closer to cooked food? thank you.

[Tanyazl1]

Hello to all, I would like to know about steamed food, is it close too raw food or closer to cooked food? thank you.

Raw foods are living vegetables, nuts, and seeds that have not been heated over 118 degrees. Therefore, steaming foods would be considered cooked.

Tanya

[ladymarmalade]

Hi, I have a question, i will start my first MC x 40 days next week (on Monday), and i want to know if after de MC i can do a green smoothie challenge x 14 days.

[NaturesLove]

I have a question about probiotics, is it safe to take probiotics supplement even when not cleansing to keep a balance on good and bad bacteria in between regular cleanses.

Michelle

[Tanyazl1]

Hello to all, I would like to know about steamed food, is it close too raw food or closer to cooked food? thank you.

Cooked food is any thing cooked or steamed above 115 degrees Fahrenheit (46 degrees Celsius).

[Tanyazl1]

Hi, I have a question, i will start my first MC x 40 days next week (on Monday), and i want to know if after de MC i can do a green smoothie challenge x 14 days.

It depend on how focused and determined you are. After I complete an extended cleanse I am really ready to eat. What's the purpose of combining the MC and the green smoothie challenge?

[whoameye]

So I'm a female bodybuilder and despite the criticism I got from the bodybuilding community I decided to do the master cleanse for detox purposes especially because I'm on my off season. I've really learned to become in tune with my body and would like to continue living life the "raw" way but I wonder if it's possible to do so when I'm trying to gain back the muscle mass that I've lost? Would it be detrimental to my detox to eat raw for 3 of my meals and then drink 3 protein shakes a day?

[freewitheft]

whoameye, I don't think the MC will be a problem. From what I understand, your body only burns protein/muscle for a couple days before switching to fat. My story is that I lost lean body mass over the last 1.5 years because of a restricted diet I'm on for MS (almost all plant-based protein is out!). Didn't realize what was going on, just I suddenly noticed I didn't like the way my body looked anymore. Turns out that even though my weight had remained pretty stable and that useless BMI was unchanged, my % body fat had gone up. So I spent a couple months building some muscle before starting this MC. I'm on day 19 of 20 now, and have gone from 18% body fat to 16%, don't think I've lost muscle. Hopefully I'll be able to get down to about 10%.

The main thing is that while doing a juice fast, don't supplement with any protein. It can be really bad for you, some people actually died doing that (it was called "opti-fast" or something like that). Wait until you're eating again before worrying about protein intake. I have found I really like hemp protein powder in my smoothies. Also found out just the other day from another poster here that nutritional yeast is also a complete protein. Not technically raw, but at least it's plant-based! :)

Crystal
MC2 Day 19 of 20

[whoameye]

Hey Crystal

Thanks for the reply. I was wondering, have you been lifting while on the cleanse?

-Elaine

[mtmouse]

Hey Crystal

Thanks for the reply. I was wondering, have you been lifting while on the cleanse?

-Elaine

No, you can't. Liquid cayenne has alcohol in it, and you shouldn't have anything on the cleanse but the exact cleanse ingredients. The liquid cayenne will actually make your cleanse more difficult.

If you're sensitive to the heat from the cayenne, put it in your lemonade just before drinking it. Start small and build up. You'll soon find you'll be able to tolerate it.

Happy cleansing!

[freewitheft]

Hey Crystal

Thanks for the reply. I was wondering, have you been lifting while on the cleanse?

-Elaine

Hi Elaine,

I would have *no problem* lifting while on MC, if I had my gym membership. lol Since I don't, I do Tae Bo for now, and I do the ones that use either the bar or bands. There was only 3 days on my 20-day MC that I didn't work out. I did notice on several other days that my energy was a little off, I just wasn't as into it as usual, but it was do-able. I made sure I had a lemonade shortly before doing it, and shortly afterwards. I figure even though you can't gain any muscle while on the MC since no protein, it sure can't hurt to work out what you've got!

Crystal

[chels]

so it is okay to use liquid cayenne on the mc?

[mtmouse]

No, liquid cayenne is not acceptable. Stick to the powdered stuff. :)

[chels]

Thanks for the info do you know why?

[mtmouse]

The liquid cayenne has alcohol in it, which is not among the accepted ingredients on the MC.

And here's what list owner Peter Glickman has to say about cayenne:

http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38387&postcount=254

Happy cleansing!

[Bridge]

Well, its been my 4th day off the cleanse and I am feeling great.
I have been drinking OJ in the mornings. Yesterday I had a fruit, my soup and a salad for dinner. Today I am having the lemonade in the morning and I prepared a salad (lettuce, tomato, avocado, carrot, pickles ) for my lunch.
Looking forward to make more salads.

[freewitheft]

*sigh* I am missing the MC. Last day was Sat. July 25th, so it's been well over a week now and this solid food stuff just isn't going well. I'm ok with the veggie soup but that gets boring day after day. So do smoothies. I'm ok with bananas and was even ok with raw cauliflower, but a bit of stir-fry totally kicked my butt. Abdominal cramping is not the correct description - it was one continuous cramp for about 10 hours. It was as though my stomach froze in the middle of a contraction. I seem to be in this cycle where I play it safe with liquids and semi-solids, then dare to try something more solid, then back off again. I miss the MC because it was so much easier. lol No deciding what would be good for my tummy and what to avoid. The simplicity is so nice. Plus, I feel so bloated and heavy already from any kind of food.

So how soon can I do another? I just did 20 days, so I'm sure I need to wait a bit. My intent was to come off this cleanse and stay raw all day, then have a cooked dinner. If I could get into that pattern, maybe I'll start feeling less "BLAH" about all this.

Crystal

[Bridge]

*sigh* I am missing the MC. Last day was Sat. July 25th, so it's been well over a week now and this solid food stuff just isn't going well. I'm ok with the veggie soup but that gets boring day after day. So do smoothies. I'm ok with bananas and was even ok with raw cauliflower, but a bit of stir-fry totally kicked my butt. Abdominal cramping is not the correct description - it was one continuous cramp for about 10 hours. It was as though my stomach froze in the middle of a contraction. I seem to be in this cycle where I play it safe with liquids and semi-solids, then dare to try something more solid, then back off again. I miss the MC because it was so much easier. lol No deciding what would be good for my tummy and what to avoid. The simplicity is so nice. Plus, I feel so bloated and heavy already from any kind of food.

So how soon can I do another? I just did 20 days, so I'm sure I need to wait a bit. My intent was to come off this cleanse and stay raw all day, then have a cooked dinner. If I could get into that pattern, maybe I'll start feeling less "BLAH" about all this.

Crystal

Hey there!
I know exactly what you mean when you say the MC was much easier. It's really a lot of work to plan what you are going to eat. Well last Friday I finally had that broiled fish I had been dreaming about while on the MC. It was my first real protein and only meal for the day. I had it stuffed with okroes, it was soooo good. But I woke up with stomach cramps, not as bad as yours though. It sent me to the bathroom. I was okay in a few hours and I had some soup around lunch time. I am trying to have only 1 meal per day. I am drinking lemonade with blackstrap molasses. Way way much cheaper than the MS. I hope its not bad for me as I am not a diabetic. I ate twice yesterday and felt somewhat sad last night and I had some icecream 'yuck'. Wasn't worth it, so today I am drinking lemonade all day. I need to keep the scale at a point.
I really would do the MC again, but as I am on 1 month probiotics I don't see that being possible. But when you are ready let me know. In the meantime, take it easy.

[freewitheft]

Thanks Bridge. I think I will give it one week, and if things aren't better I might go on a 10-day. Forgot to mention before that I also have lots of gas. It started shortly before the MC...getting bloated and gassy...felt like maybe I was having issues with fermenting food and hoped that the MC would take care of it. Apparently it didn't. :( I'm not sure that I could handle an anti-candida diet, my diet is already so restricted because of Multiple Sclerosis (spelled out since MS is another acronym here, lol). Maybe I should try a green juice fast, just not sure I could make it as palatable as the MC. ;)

Bridge, I'm so jealous of your fish! I bought two salmon steaks on sale during the MC and put them in the freezer. Can't wait to have one! I think the blackstrap molasses is just fine. I think the reason it's recommended for diabetics is that it's metabolized slower, so your blood sugar stays more even rather than spiking. So that's a good thing!

Crystal

[Bridge]

Thanks Bridge. I think I will give it one week, and if things aren't better I might go on a 10-day. Forgot to mention before that I also have lots of gas. It started shortly before the MC...getting bloated and gassy...felt like maybe I was having issues with fermenting food and hoped that the MC would take care of it. Apparently it didn't. :( I'm not sure that I could handle an anti-candida diet, my diet is already so restricted because of Multiple Sclerosis (spelled out since MS is another acronym here, lol). Maybe I should try a green juice fast, just not sure I could make it as palatable as the MC. ;)

Bridge, I'm so jealous of your fish! I bought two salmon steaks on sale during the MC and put them in the freezer. Can't wait to have one! I think the blackstrap molasses is just fine. I think the reason it's recommended for diabetics is that it's metabolized slower, so your blood sugar stays more even rather than spiking. So that's a good thing!

Crystal

Have you tried some good ginger tea? That's what we here in the Caribbean take for that :) Try it and its all natural too :)

Not familiar with the Candida diet but just Googled it. It's funny that it talks about yeast because I am having a serious attack of it since coming off the MC. How about you? I will not be taking any antibiotics, will the probiotics help?

...Few minutes later....I am editing my post to include that I just read that Live yogurt cultures (or probiotics) are good for Candida and its a class of supplement that help your gut to repopulate itself with good bacteria.

I am glad we can talk.

[freewitheft]

Have you tried some good ginger tea? That's what we here in the Caribbean take for that :) Try it and its all natural too :)

Not familiar with the Candida diet but just Googled it. It's funny that it talks about yeast because I am having a serious attack of it since coming off the MC. How about you? I will not be taking any antibiotics, will the probiotics help?

...Few minutes later....I am editing my post to include that I just read that Live yogurt cultures (or probiotics) are good for Candida and its a class of supplement that help your gut to repopulate itself with good bacteria.

I am glad we can talk.

Yeah, I have the ginger tea and it didn't help at all. Which means it must be pretty bad, because it usually helps! I wonder if the all-natural ginger soda, with EXTRA ginger, would help. Today I had a smoothie for breakfast (banana, pineapple, hemp, agave, and coconut milk) and the last of my veggie soup for lunch. I'm going to try a little bit of rice and veggies for dinner again tonight. Tomorrow I am determined to try a salad for lunch. Have to go get some greens since what I have left from last week is old and going to waste now. :mad: The kids like salad but they can't eat that much of it! lol

I think the probiotics will help you. I've been drinking kombucha everyday for my probiotics, or a bit of yogurt made from coconut milk. That really is the only downside of the MC I believe. Taking in any kind of sugar, even natural ones like MS or molasses, just feeds the yeast. So if that is a major underlying issue, the MC probably won't resolve it. That's why I'm leaning towards finding a way to do a green juice fast, I just don't know if I can make it taste decent without some agave. I'm not sure if candida/yeast is my problem, but that's a common reason for fermenting food and causing the bloating/gas.

Ahhh, you're in the Caribbean. I'm jealous! I'm in landlocked summer heat, and I wish there was some water around!

Crystal

[Bridge]

Yeah, I have the ginger tea and it didn't help at all. Which means it must be pretty bad, because it usually helps! I wonder if the all-natural ginger soda, with EXTRA ginger, would help. Today I had a smoothie for breakfast (banana, pineapple, hemp, agave, and coconut milk) and the last of my veggie soup for lunch. I'm going to try a little bit of rice and veggies for dinner again tonight. Tomorrow I am determined to try a salad for lunch. Have to go get some greens since what I have left from last week is old and going to waste now. :mad: The kids like salad but they can't eat that much of it! lol

I think the probiotics will help you. I've been drinking kombucha everyday for my probiotics, or a bit of yogurt made from coconut milk. That really is the only downside of the MC I believe. Taking in any kind of sugar, even natural ones like MS or molasses, just feeds the yeast. So if that is a major underlying issue, the MC probably won't resolve it. That's why I'm leaning towards finding a way to do a green juice fast, I just don't know if I can make it taste decent without some agave. I'm not sure if candida/yeast is my problem, but that's a common reason for fermenting food and causing the bloating/gas.

Ahhh, you're in the Caribbean. I'm jealous! I'm in landlocked summer heat, and I wish there was some water around!

Crystal

Tell me, you haven't eaten anything substantial yet? Or, are you on a raw diet? Of course you know I am not. I have been eating since last Friday. Trying to have 1 meal per day with OJ or lemonade. I tried a green smoothie last week Thursday (callaloo [something like ur spinach], mango and banana). It was bad at all. Would like to do it again. Someone gave me some cherries yesterday but since I can't have any sweet and our cherries are sour, I don't know what I am going to do. Any ideas?

Don't think we have the yogurt with the coconut milk here. I haven't eaten anything all day. Dying to get to home. I had cooked some chicken soup on Saturday with vegetables and okroes. I think I will have that.

Believe it or not I don't go the beach often even though one is 15-20 mins away. I'm an in door person :)
Keep me posted.

[freewitheft]

Tell me, you haven't eaten anything substantial yet? Or, are you on a raw diet? Of course you know I am not. I have been eating since last Friday. Trying to have 1 meal per day with OJ or lemonade. I tried a green smoothie last week Thursday (callaloo [something like ur spinach], mango and banana). It was bad at all. Would like to do it again. Someone gave me some cherries yesterday but since I can't have any sweet and our cherries are sour, I don't know what I am going to do. Any ideas?

Don't think we have the yogurt with the coconut milk here. I haven't eaten anything all day. Dying to get to home. I had cooked some chicken soup on Saturday with vegetables and okroes. I think I will have that.

Believe it or not I don't go the beach often even though one is 15-20 mins away. I'm an in door person :)
Keep me posted.

The soup is probably the most substantial thing I've had on a regular basis. I make it with carrots, zucchini or potatoes depending on my mood, garlic, shallots, sometimes some mushrooms. On Saturday, I did have a few bites of rice and veggies, but I was careful to really limit myself and was not satisfied at all. At least I didn't have bad stomach pain, it was uncomfortable but not painful. I would like to stay raw during the day then have a cooked dinner. I would be open to doing all raw, but I can't get enough protein. Since starting the special diet 1.5 years ago, I started losing lean body mass and now that I've managed to build some muscle back I don't want to go there again. In addition to being gluten-free and casein-free, all beans/peas/legumes are also out. That was my major source of protein since I was vegetarian then. I started adding in some chicken and fish a couple times a week but that still wasn't enough for me I guess. I do use the hemp powder in my smoothies for some extra protein and I like the taste of it too. :D The yogurt from coconut milk is sooooooo good but it's sooooooo expensive. I only treated myself to some this time because it's taking so long to go back to solids and I was getting bored.

I would try the cherries in a smoothie. If you mix it with other sweeter fruit it should balance out. A pain in the butt to do it because of the pits but at least they won't go to waste! I bet your green smoothie was good, I really like spinach in mine so it's probably similar. I go back and forth. Sometimes I'll have green smoothies every day for a couple weeks, then I burn out and don't have any for a while. Oh, and we were talking about ginger too! I love putting one or two slices of ginger root in my smoothies. Gives it a nice kick. :)

Crystal

[Duckiedee]

Hi there - just finished my first 15 day MC. It went pretty good all together my tongue was about 60 - 70% pink yesterday and today it WAS PINK! Woo hoo! I am so happy about that.

I am easing off on Grape Juice vs OJ - as I am going from the MC to a mono detox diet with Grapes and Grape Juice to continue cleansing. I was originally planning for 14 days although yesterday I was feeling more like 7 to 10, but today I am feeling more committed again - so I may go the 14. I feel less "bad" about going shorter now that my tongue is PINK! :)

I still haven't had solids yet - that comes tomorrow or the next day. I may start with some solid grapes by supper - if I'm not hungry, I'll wait until the following day.

This has been a great journey so far - I am so proud to have gone to my goal.

I think my next one will be in about 4 months - I only plan on doing 10 day ones from here on out. I may alternate them with a 14 day grape mono detox so I'm doing one or the other every four months.

Can't wait to see more of how everyone's ease back onto food goes. :)

[Duckiedee]

Quick question - I haven't started the probiotics yet - considering I am going from the MC to the mono detox - should I start now or wait until I finish this other 'phase' of detox OR somewhere in a few days? Anyone know?

[freewitheft]

Quick question - I haven't started the probiotics yet - considering I am going from the MC to the mono detox - should I start now or wait until I finish this other 'phase' of detox OR somewhere in a few days? Anyone know?

Hi Duckiedee and congrats! I guess it would depend on what the grape diet does to the intestinal tract. If it's gonna keep cleaning everything out of there, you might as well wait to replace the good flora afterwards.

I had a smoothie for breakfast, then a blueberry/apple fruit leather (was out running errands with the kids, lol) for a snack. For lunch I just finished a marvelous salad with tomato, cucumber, green onions, and kalamata olives. Crossing fingers it all sits well! :D

Crystal

[Duckiedee]

It does still keep cleaning it all out. :) I was on the fence because it is a solid. However, the skins should have enough fibre to do their own 'justice', so maybe I will wait until I'm done.


:)

[Duckiedee]

Good morning! Feeling like I could conquer the world today! I GET TO EAT! LOL!

I have to admit (DH's fault for leaving them!) I strayed a teensy bit last night. I had 5 small potato chips nibbled tiny nibbles and chewed each nibble for 20 bites or until it dissolved! They've been calling to me since they've been sitting on the fridge since Sat. He is not home until Sunday so I tossed the rest in the garbage because I realized I'd continue to cheat with them! They didn't give me the poops or cramps or anything, so I think I'll be alright - just have to work harder to detox them! LOL. Duh.

I felt completely different about the cheat than I ever have on a diet. I really decided to enjoy them, so I didn't beat myself up - BUT afterwards I really realized how much I DIDN'T want them for my health. I was picturing my nice clean system and thinking about what all the preservatives, artificial colours, modified fats etc were going to do to all the scrubbing I had done inside - kind of like someone walking through mud and then on your newly cleaned floors! I DON'T want that!

Other than that - no temptations. Am drinking some white tea and grape juice this morning. Will be having my first grapes around noon. A couple of ounces every two hours today - no more - don't want the grape skins to be too harsh on my system. Eat them until around eight. I reread the info on the grapes and I can have raisins too! Yay! Once I get passed the first couple of days I can have up to a cup in a sitting - that'll be such a nice chewy texture.

I couldn't believe how much I pooped yesterday! And no SWF! (Blessed be! LOL) Senna tea the night before though. It was black/dark green - I'm guessing purple grape juice has something to do with that! LOL. No cramps though and no diarrhea.

Am done another 1.5 pounds today since yesterday. I weigh in at 145.5 for a total of 18.5 pounds lost (6.5 since starting my 15 day cleanse). My BMI has gone from 27.3 to 24.2 - In the normal range! I love I don't have to consider myself overweight any more! I am SO not going to let the weight creep up! I know this has been more about cleaning my system than weightloss, BUT I have decreased my health risks for sure by lowering it to a normal BMI! Once I am off the grapes I will continue to work at getting my weight down.

Am still thinking of 124 - 21.5 more pounds to go, but I may stop before that - I don't know - my body hasn't even been this weight since before I got pregnant. I'm about five pounds less I think. So I don't know what will look good on my post preg. body. If I feel I look great at 135 - I may just stop there... I just know in the past 124 gave me the best overall shape to fit into clothes with the old hip/waist ratio. Below that that old boobies disappear and I get more pear-shaped again.

Some of the books I've been reading suggest a day of fasting/week. I think I will try that. I figure I will do it on the Monday each week - if I'm at work - the time goes so fast the day is over quickly. And that regularly gives the body some time to rest and repair. I wonder if it will slow down my metabolism though - but also wonder if my body will just stop worrying about that after awhile if I do it weekly. Any thoughts?

My plan is to eating mostly raw fruits, veggies and nuts, some cooked veggies - I'm going to try and stay away from bread - which actually isn't too hard for me. Bagels and pancakes/homemade waffles are my hardest - I will try to keep that to once a week or every two weeks. (It's a family favourite.) AND have a smaller portion, maybe a quarter of the size I'm used to. Sweets/snack food will be harder to stop in a social setting (I am a social eater vs. an emotional eater) but I CAN!

Meat, poultry and fish I'm going to try to limit to about three meals a week, maybe less some weeks, and will keep most of those meals to eating out or with friends. I also want to replace my breakfast will all fruit vs cereal which is my usual even though it is a whole grain cereal. I also want to make lunch or supper an all salad affair each day or possibly fruit for lunch instead since it is easy to come by at the restaurant I work at and so delectable. I need to get back to adding more legumes and beans... not too hard because I like them and find them comforting and easy and yummy, but I'd just gotten in a bad habit of not eating them enough. I see a lot of veggie stir frys with nuts in my future with brown rice or alone. I also want to find out where I can buy raw yogurt and honey. Does anyone have any brand names they can give me - particularly availalbe in Canada?

I am really getting excited about my new heathly palate. I will allow myself some fun food from time to time, but I will also give myself a five pound range and refuse to go over it!!

[Bridge]

Duckiedee, sounds good. I enjoyed reading your posts. Seems you are doing something good.
Freewitheft, where are you?

Last night I didnt have my dinner until around 9:30pm. I know that was bad but I was nowhere near food. My husband bought chinese and I love chinese but I was doing so well without it. I had some vegetable fried rice and pineapple chicken. Was it goooood, YES! So that was last night.

Breakfast I had some OJ. Lunch....sigh...I had more chinese leftovers. Around 5pm I had some porridge, are you guys familiar with that? It's a mixture of cornmeal, milk (yeah I know) and sugar for sweetening. Oh between the lunch and the porridge I had a donut....bad...I took the first bite and chewed it several times deciding whether to swallow. After the first attempt it became easy to finish. Whining!!! I want back the MC... I feel safer on it.

My plan is derailing. I will make another attempt tomorrow. My scale said 185lbs this morning. The lowest I have been is 182 on the last day of the MC. I need to loose more as my BMI is 29. Still overweight. Help!!

[freewitheft]

Bridge, I had salmon last night! It had never tasted so good. lol I made tomato basil rice to go with it. Enough left for another meal. Guess I will have it for dinner since I'm trying to stay raw during the day.

I find that I can't feel like I'm depriving myself of EVERYTHING, that is the quickest way to get derailed. I have had a few gluten-free beers over the last couple days. I think that helps me stay disciplined with food. It was really good with the salmon last night. :D

Crystal

[Duckiedee]

LOL on me! I finished my grape diet in a record 2 days! LOL!

My heart wasn't as into it as I thought it was. My demon was for the last six nights it has been harder and harder to resist "Bad" food. I broke the mono diet with veggie soup around suppertime and a little old cheddar... I was just done. I have so many social occasions and travel coming up next week - I just wasn't feeling it. As a little reward I did have about two handfuls of party mix - but I'm done with that now!!!

I stuck with all fruit today and some beans mid afternoon - about to do some more veggie soup and a small piece of pizza later... overall though I am very satisfied with how far I've come and I feel back in control of my eating - I was just feeling really deprived and like if I went longer on the mono diet I would seriously have eating repercussions that my cravings would be TOO strong to resist much longer... I just really needed some variety. :)

I think I may go on the mono grape diet towards the end of August for two weeks instead. :) A little break inbetween.

[Bridge]

Bridge, I had salmon last night! It had never tasted so good. lol I made tomato basil rice to go with it. Enough left for another meal. Guess I will have it for dinner since I'm trying to stay raw during the day.

I find that I can't feel like I'm depriving myself of EVERYTHING, that is the quickest way to get derailed. I have had a few gluten-free beers over the last couple days. I think that helps me stay disciplined with food. It was really good with the salmon last night. :D

Crystal

Crystal I am soooo happy for you! Did your stomach hold up? How do you feel today? My family and I went to he movies last night and I had my first hot dog and 2 pieces of nacho chips :) I was worried that I ate too much. Going to do some fish again tonight, will have to buy some okros. I did the cherry, banana and callaloo smoothie yesterday. I will have it for breakfast and lunch today so I will have space for the fish. Maybe you could try it. Cut the okros in small pieces, season the fish with salt and pepper and finally chopped garlic. Place the okros inside the fish with a little butter on the inside. Wrap fish in foil paper and broil until fish feels tender or when it is cooked.
Hope you will. Later.

[freewitheft]

Duckiedee, I don't blame you for stopping the grape diet. I can only focus on one goal at a time. lol I admire those who can go completely raw for a whole week before MC, or do something else afterwards like juicing or the grape diet. For me, I'm all about the MC, and eating before and after it. :D

Bridge, the salmon and rice actually sat well on my tummy! I decided to go for it when I didn't have any problems with the salad I had for lunch. I will try your idea for the fish next time I have some. It might be a while til I'm in the mood, 2 salmon dinners pretty much takes care of the desire for fish for a while. lol How were the cherries in your smoothie? I just remembered that my favorite Naked juice (bottled juice smoothies) is Cherry Pomegranate, so I bet I would like the combo you did!

Crystal

[Bridge]

Crystal, the smoothie with the cherry is good. I am having it for lunch right now. I am trying to watch the calorie intake especially after last night's indulgence. I am wearing a size 14 pants and I forgot to put the belt on so it's like falling off me. But that's a good reminder for me, that anything is possible.
Apart from the fish, can you eat poulty or any other?
Overall I guess we are doing well then.

[california cleanser]

Hello Fellow Cleansers,

I will be starting my second Master Cleanse on August 14th and I'm excited! I am hoping to make it to 14 days this time, however, I joined this forum for some extra insight and support.

After I completed the first cleanse I had a challenging time going "raw" with my diet. Does anyone have any great/helpful/informative suggestions for books/recipes that could support me in taking on a more "raw" diet without so much hassle, questioning, and the unknown?

I am looking for a comprehensive book to support me in maintaining a more "raw" diet post-cleanse. I feel like I just got bored of eating the same things and I am hoping to find some creative recipes and ideas for how to keep consistent (and entertained) with that lifestyle.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[freewitheft]

california, I don't have any books to recommend but I love the www.goneraw.com website. Lots of great recipes and nice forums like here as well. I started checking it out and collecting recipes while on my first cleanse this spring. It was a nice way to pass the time til I could eat again. :D

Bridge, yeah I eat some poultry. More often than fish actually. I'm hoping that eventually I will build up enough muscle that I will be able to go back to just plant protein, but with the beans and legumes cut out it's too hard right now!

Crystal

[Bridge]

Crystal, it seems my plan for going liquid during the day and eat in the evening is working out because the scale says I am 183lbs. My lowest at the end of the MC was 182lbs and the highest after was 186.6lbs. I feel good abut that.
I had no BM on Saturday though and that worried me :(, so I took a senna and I have BMs throughout Sunday. It felt good and it made me lighter :D But I didn't have one yesterday again. I got the urge this morning but nothing. It seems I am constip... :( Should I just do another senna or what? I am having a smoothie (callaloo, bananas, OJ) this morning and it along with the water feels like its in my chest area and not going down. Any suggestions?

[freewitheft]

Oh Bridge, that sucks! I guess I would keep up with the senna for now until you feel like you don't need it anymore. I've never had much of a problem with constipation, but I can tell you that since I started putting hemp protein powder in my smoothies, there is NO way I won't stay regular. lol I used to eat lots of oatmeal for fiber, but oats that are certified gluten-free are way too expensive so I gave that up. Anyways, the hemp powder would probably work well because you could put it in smoothies and still stay liquid during the day!

ETA: Congrats on the weight loss and maintaining it!

Crystal

[Bridge]

Thanks Crystal, I will do the senna for now because if we do have the hemp powder here it will be an arm and a leg in terms of price. Will keep you posted and thanks for being there :)

[freewitheft]

Hey Bridge, hope things are moving along for ya. ;)

For the last few days, I haven't stayed completely raw during the day. Mostly because I hate to waste the expensive food I buy on this diet. I got some rice tortillas to make chicken quesadillas for dinner one night last week. Turned out they suck for quesadillas, but they are good for wraps. lol So I've been having wraps for lunch with guacamole, lettuce, and red onion. Yum! Other than that, though, I've been doing good. Mostly smoothies and salads, some raw nuts and fruit. When I want something a little sweet I have a cacao/goji bite from the health food store. Tonight for my cooked dinner I'm making lemon rosemary chicken breasts with carrots and brussel sprouts.

I think I'm finding a new pattern here. I'm enjoying all of my food when I'm eating, but still missing the MC so I'm going to be doing 10-day MCs more frequently. Next one in mid-September I believe. I used to worry about losing too much weight, but it seems I don't lose more than I need to. My friend lost 10 pounds in the first 5 days, whereas I didn't lose that much over 20 days, maybe 5 or 6 pounds total. I did lose an inch off my waist though and I don't want it back! :D


Crystal

[Bridge]

Hi Crystal,
I am happy that you are adding more foods to your diet and since they are all healthy and you have no weight to loose, you are good to go. Well I will plan to go that 10 day with ya! Don't leave me out :)

Oh, today I went by myself (BM), it seems the smoothies work best for me. I made the greens, bananas and OJ yesterday and this morning I made greens, mango and OJ. Boy this one was gooood. I had it for breakfast and lunch. I have to get more greens tomorrow and oranges. Even my husband said it was good. I kind of sneaked some passion fruit syrup (sweetner) in it though. It was just a little tooo fresh :) I also had a small pack of fruit & nut mix as a snack.

Tonight I had some curried shrimp wonton, I prepared, with steam cabbage and baked beans. It was good and I felt satisfied and clean :) I didn't feel like I was having something bad.

All I need now is some consistent exercise :eek: See ya tomorrow, happy blending.

[freewitheft]

Hi Bridge,

Things still moving for you? I have been getting progressively worse at staying raw all day. It's not that I'm craving cooked foods, one dinner a day would be fine with me. Guess it's just about not wasting leftovers and such. :mad: I'm really mad at myself so I'm starting fresh tomorrow. Well, I'm staying raw today now too until dinner, but I already messed up earlier so today won't count. lol I really need to have some discipline here because I feel so much better when I stick to as much raw as possible.

Thinking about starting a parasite cleanse. Someone just reminded me of it, and I've had it on my list of "to do's" for over a year now. In between fasts seems as good a time as any! Kind of afraid to see what might come out of me. I'm wondering just what kind of creature could survive the 20-day MC. :eek:

[Bridge]

Hey there freewitheft,
How badly did you do? What have you been eating? Anyway, don't beat yourself over it. I slip sometimes too, I think I may have been nibbling a bit here and there again. Can't allow that. At least we catch up on ourselves.

Moving.....mmmmm nope, stuck again. But I did a medical yesterday and told the doctor about it and she assured me that it was okay not to have a BM especially if one is not eating much. She also did an internal examination to prove that...well there was nothing to come down. But of course, having been on the MC I know there is always stuff to come down :) Will do a senna tonight cause the scale is going up and something needs to come down :)

You have been opening my eyes to a lot of stuff. Everytime I talk to you, I have to google something. Never heard of parasite cleanse, but will google it. But you can share with me how you plan to do it :confused:

[freewitheft]

Hey there freewitheft,
How badly did you do? What have you been eating? Anyway, don't beat yourself over it. I slip sometimes too, I think I may have been nibbling a bit here and there again. Can't allow that. At least we catch up on ourselves.

Moving.....mmmmm nope, stuck again. But I did a medical yesterday and told the doctor about it and she assured me that it was okay not to have a BM especially if one is not eating much. She also did an internal examination to prove that...well there was nothing to come down. But of course, having been on the MC I know there is always stuff to come down :) Will do a senna tonight cause the scale is going up and something needs to come down :)

You have been opening my eyes to a lot of stuff. Everytime I talk to you, I have to google something. Never heard of parasite cleanse, but will google it. But you can share with me how you plan to do it :confused:

Hey Bridge,

Glad I'm giving Google some business! lol Parasites are kind of like candida in that most of us have SOME and that can even be beneficial, but overgrowth can cause problems. I had appendicitis about a year ago and have read that parasites are often the culprit. Also, I wake up with a flat tummy but am bloated and gassy by bedtime no matter what I've eaten. That could be candida, or parasites too. The cleanses use VERY strong herbs like black walnut, wormwood, oregano, etc. so it's nothing to mess around with. But it's not only anti-parasite but also anti-yeast so should take care of either problem. You can concoct your own cleanse, but in this case I will probably spend the $25-30 for a commercial cleanse kit like ParaGone. I have put it off and put it off because I wanted to be in a place where I wasn't trying anything else new like diet changes, fasting, etc. That way, I will know if this particular therapy is giving results. Of course, if I pass something detectable in the toilet, I'll know for sure anyways. :rolleyes:

Oh today, I had my smoothie and salad and some honeydew melon but I also munched on leftover turkey breast I had roasted for a casserole and a gluten-free blondie that SHOULD have been a treat at the end of the day. *sigh* The food itself isn't really the issue I guess, it's more that it kept me from filling up my tummy with raw foods only. ugh

Sorry to hear things came to a standstill again! Hope the senna helps. Never thought to ask before if you've tried just taking a few capsules of psyllium husks everyday, or the powder in juice. That should be fairly easy to find and not too expensive.

[almostskinny]

I'm ready to come off of the MC after day 27 (tomorrow)...BUT, my tongue has not cleared up. The problem is I almost cannot stand the lemonade any longer. I drink twice as much water due to the taste now. I've lost 30 pounds. I assume after reading all of this that I need to drink OJ for at least a week and maybe try the liquid from a vegetable soup as well. I am so nervous to gain all that weight back so I have decided to also do the raw veggie thing. My quesiton is why hasn't my tongue cleared up? I've have been 100% committed and not cheated or anything.:confused:

[Sim]

Not to worry! The white-coated tongue does not always clear up on the Cleanse...it doesn't necessarily mean anything and is to be used only as one kind of indicator. I have done many cleanses for extended periods and sometimes it clears, other times, it clears only after I begin eating again. Congratulations on your excellent results...aside from a terrific weight loss, I bet you feel so much better! As an aside, I switched to a raw lifestyle after my first cleanse almost three years ago when I too lost 30 pounds...I lost another 10 when I went raw and have never felt better. It would be great if you'd join us on the Raw Lifestyle thread and Lemonhead Recipe Box. See you there!

[Bridge]

I'm ready to come off of the MC after day 27 (tomorrow)...BUT, my tongue has not cleared up. The problem is I almost cannot stand the lemonade any longer. I drink twice as much water due to the taste now. I've lost 30 pounds. I assume after reading all of this that I need to drink OJ for at least a week and maybe try the liquid from a vegetable soup as well. I am so nervous to gain all that weight back so I have decided to also do the raw veggie thing. My quesiton is why hasn't my tongue cleared up? I've have been 100% committed and not cheated or anything.:confused:

Hi there,
I remember that feeling of coming off the MC. I went for 24 days and my tongue didn't clear either. No sweat, I think it has to do with the amount of toxins that are in our bodies. I did notice however, that on days after the middle of my tongue got a little pink.
I too was nervous about gaining the weight back. I lost 20lbs and I am still on the overweight side. Since they recommend drinking the OJ or lemonade for breakfast and I read somewhere in the MC book that our body cleanses from 12 midnight to 12 noon, I thought that would be a good reason not to eat anything. I kind of go further with it also. I try not to eat until I get home. It works well when I make a smoothie for breakfast and lunch. I am not too hungry on that.
It's been 3 weeks and the scale has been going up and down but no more than 3 lbs added. This morning I am back where I lost the 20lbs. Try it.

[Bridge]

Hey there Crystal,
Took the senna last night cause I felt I picked on a little too many things yesterday (sugar cane, left over fish & okra, yoghurt, mangoes, etc). My husband commented on my snacking and I didn't feel good about that, so senna OUTwith it.

At what time of the day do you have your first solid intake of food? Today I had my OJ in the morning and I brought some lemonade (molasses) with me for lunch. But am I hungry? YUPPP! I hope I will last until I get home because I really need to remember that I can survive on liquid alone. Oops, what am going to eat? Darn this planning of food is work. Also have some left overs but don't want to eat the rice (white) as I had some last night. Certainly don't want to encourage that again so I will have to think of something else.
Are you still having your kombucha? I should be finished with the probiotics on Monday (30 days). Thinking about going to the gym for even 2 months, I need to tuck away the loose skin :) No discipline at home. Are you exercising?
Take care.

[freewitheft]

Hi Bridge! Was wondering where you've been. :) Yeah, I'm exercising. I do Tae Bo just about everyday. I know you're supposed to take one day off a week, but I don't bother because I know there will be a day when I just don't have time. So, if I took Monday off then couldn't get to it on Wednesday, I would feel bad that I didn't do it on Monday. lol I also do some extra weight exercises a couple times a week and body sculpting for my butt :rolleyes:. Would love to take up running again, but I don't have time away from the kids without getting a sitter and they're still too little to keep up. Would also love to have a gym membership but I'm doing the single mom thing, so don't have the extra money for that. :(

When things are going right, my first solid meal is a salad for lunch. So, it should be 15-16 hours between dinner the night before and lunch the next day. And I feel SO GOOD when I stick to that. It's just hard when there's "other stuff" sitting in the house. ugh I really am feeling like I need to do another MC soon. Just a 10-day this time. After the first MC that was a 10-day, I did really well with eating the way I wanted to (at least for a while!) and I didn't feel hungry all the time. Since the 20-day MC, my appetite is just insatiable. Don't know why, but I don't like it. I'm thinking about maybe next Saturday. I wouldn't do it so soon, but kids' dad will be in town to visit on 9/9 (first visit in 2 years) and that's my time to recharge and hang out with friends so I want to be done and eating by then!

eta: Yes, I'm still doing the kombucha! I make a bottle of 2 servings last 3 days. But at least I have some everyday!

[Bridge]

Hi Bridge! Was wondering where you've been. :) Yeah, I'm exercising. I do Tae Bo just about everyday. I know you're supposed to take one day off a week, but I don't bother because I know there will be a day when I just don't have time. So, if I took Monday off then couldn't get to it on Wednesday, I would feel bad that I didn't do it on Monday. lol I also do some extra weight exercises a couple times a week and body sculpting for my butt :rolleyes:. Would love to take up running again, but I don't have time away from the kids without getting a sitter and they're still too little to keep up. Would also love to have a gym membership but I'm doing the single mom thing, so don't have the extra money for that. :(

When things are going right, my first solid meal is a salad for lunch. So, it should be 15-16 hours between dinner the night before and lunch the next day. And I feel SO GOOD when I stick to that. It's just hard when there's "other stuff" sitting in the house. ugh I really am feeling like I need to do another MC soon. Just a 10-day this time. After the first MC that was a 10-day, I did really well with eating the way I wanted to (at least for a while!) and I didn't feel hungry all the time. Since the 20-day MC, my appetite is just insatiable. Don't know why, but I don't like it. I'm thinking about maybe next Saturday. I wouldn't do it so soon, but kids' dad will be in town to visit on 9/9 (first visit in 2 years) and that's my time to recharge and hang out with friends so I want to be done and eating by then!

eta: Yes, I'm still doing the kombucha! I make a bottle of 2 servings last 3 days. But at least I have some everyday!

Hi
I really envy you with having an exercise routine and sticking to it. If you don't mind, please tell me more about that routine. I will use you as my mentor :) I have a set of Billy Blanks Tae Bo Boot Camp. I will pull them out and since evening classes are done for me (2 yrs assoc degree) I WILL do it in the evenings. I will need your help, ok? You sound young, how old are you? I just turned 40 with 2 daughters 16 and 13.
With regards to eating, it's like I want to taste everything now. Food is calling out to me and I am trying not to answer. My daughter made a salad for me so I will have that for lunch today with sardines. It's also difficult to eat healthy when the funds are low :)
Well, I woke up late this morning with studying on my mind. But after reading your email I think I will put in some exercise time......maybe later after the senna has finished its toll (cramps) :)
Tell me for sure if you will start next Sat and keep up the good work girl!

[freewitheft]

Hi
I really envy you with having an exercise routine and sticking to it. If you don't mind, please tell me more about that routine. I will use you as my mentor :) I have a set of Billy Blanks Tae Bo Boot Camp. I will pull them out and since evening classes are done for me (2 yrs assoc degree) I WILL do it in the evenings. I will need your help, ok? You sound young, how old are you? I just turned 40 with 2 daughters 16 and 13.
With regards to eating, it's like I want to taste everything now. Food is calling out to me and I am trying not to answer. My daughter made a salad for me so I will have that for lunch today with sardines. It's also difficult to eat healthy when the funds are low :)
Well, I woke up late this morning with studying on my mind. But after reading your email I think I will put in some exercise time......maybe later after the senna has finished its toll (cramps) :)
Tell me for sure if you will start next Sat and keep up the good work girl!

It's funny because I look younger than I am (people always guess wrong by 5-8 years) and I feel younger than I am, but I'll be turning 37 in a couple weeks! With the Tae Bo, I really think it's all about the endorphins flowing after doing it a while that make you WANT to do it everyday. So, if you commit to at least 2 or 3 weeks of not coming up with an excuse to get out of it (LOL!) you can get yourself in that zone I think. Plus you should see some good results in that time, which keeps motivation high. I've only done one of the Boot camp DVDs and it was a great workout - never got to the point where I could do all the ab exercises in a row without taking a break. :p I would probably LOVE it if I hadn't tried the "Amped" series. Those workouts are just unreal. They are an even better cardio workout, meaning that your heart rate stays up more consistently. When you go through some of the combinations you are just PUMPED, very powerful stuff. Anyways, the cardio is what really burns fat, all the strengthening and toning is awesome too but I couldn't really see the muscles anyways til the fat started melting. lol If you ever want to try some of those, I really recommend the "Tae Bo Amped: Jumpstart Cardio" for the first one. I just rent them from netflix and send them back when I want to try another.

Just keep in mind that if you haven't done it in a while, you will ABSOLUTELY have to take the next day off. :D After that, on the 3rd day I could do it but not quite as vigorously as the first time because I was still a little sore. Then after that, I committed myself to doing it everyday and slowly got stronger and better (more coordinated). Now, I'm definitely in that zone where I do it because I want to. It's exhilarating and I miss having that feeling on the occasional day that I don't have time for it.

Wow, if you start now then are able to continue during an MC, you will feel amazing! Now, I couldn't do it everyday when I did the 20-day MC. There were a few days my energy was just too low. But most days I could and it was nice to know I was burning even more fat than usual. :D

Right now, I'm feeling pretty strongly that I'll start next Saturday. I really don't want to have to wait until mid-Sept after the ex leaves. Feel like I will have un-done all the good from that 20-day MC by then. lol I definitely still have more healing work to do in terms of the MS - I think that eventually I will be able to relax and not feel like I have to be ON IT all the time. But for now, I want to keep all that healing momentum going!

[Bridge]

Hi Crystal,
I am studying for an exam which takes place on Thursday so I have this big book in front of me trying to finish. Took the day off from work to do so too.

I will look for your Tae Bo version and try it. I take it you do it for the length of DVD? With the boot camp version I could only do 20mins lol Hope this one will be better.

I didn't get to pick up any fruits or supplies last Friday and Saturday I wasn't mobile so I didn't get anything. Found a mango and had that for breakfast this morning. Around 12noon I had few pieces of fried plaintain and then made some oatmeal. For dinner I had rice with vegetables and ackee (a type of fruit). It's a one pot meal we call seasoned rice.

Not too sure about doing the MC again since I am thinking that I spent almost 30 days getting back the good flora in my intestines to have them go out again. I think it might be too soon. We'll see.

[freewitheft]

Hi Crystal,
I am studying for an exam which takes place on Thursday so I have this big book in front of me trying to finish. Took the day off from work to do so too.

I will look for your Tae Bo version and try it. I take it you do it for the length of DVD? With the boot camp version I could only do 20mins lol Hope this one will be better.

I didn't get to pick up any fruits or supplies last Friday and Saturday I wasn't mobile so I didn't get anything. Found a mango and had that for breakfast this morning. Around 12noon I had few pieces of fried plaintain and then made some oatmeal. For dinner I had rice with vegetables and ackee (a type of fruit). It's a one pot meal we call seasoned rice.

Not too sure about doing the MC again since I am thinking that I spent almost 30 days getting back the good flora in my intestines to have them go out again. I think it might be too soon. We'll see.

Hey Bridge,

I'm gonna scrap the MC too for now. I realized I would be fasting on my birthday! Not cool. lol So I think I'll do a couple short water-only fasts between now and the ex's arrival. I usually go from Friday after dinner, through Saturday, then start with juice Sunday morning.

I did the boot camp DVD after I had been doing Tae Bo for a while, so I was able to go the whole 55 minutes or whatever, but I just couldn't do all those abs! :D I believe the Jumpstart Cardio is around 36 minutes and that includes stretches before and after, so maybe 30 minutes of cardio? At any rate, I always just do what I can and know I'll work up to doing more.

The fried plantains sound yummy, haven't had those in a long time! Is ackee similar to another kind of fruit? I've never even heard of it. Good luck on your test!

[jilene_f]

Hey all

Hoping someone will be able to guide me as I am trying to transition into raw food lifestyle. I did by the book 12 Steps to Raw Food and I already love what I am reading so far! I definitely want to make the lifestyle change but I am not sure if I should do another cleanse...

On August 1st , I did the Master Cleanse for 14 days. I was planning on going for 21 days, but I cheated and when I went out on the weekend, I ended up eating. I tried to go back on the cleanse 3 days later, but in another week I was back to eating junk/processed food when I was going out.

Now I still do my SWF in the morning and I have an occasional spicy lemonade here and there, but for the past two weeks, I have been eating out and having lots of junk :(

My question is, should I just start a new Master Cleanse the beginning of next month and do the 21 days and then slowly work my way into raw food? As you can tell, I do have a junk/processed/cooked food addiction and I would love to be able to curb it!

If I started another Master Cleanse in September, would that be too much cleansing since I did 14 days in August. I read somewhere that you should only do 1 MC every 3-4 months...?

Please advise b/c I desparately want to do raw food and kick my bad food addiction - but I am really struggling! Thanks for reading

[Bridge]

Hey Bridge,

I'm gonna scrap the MC too for now. I realized I would be fasting on my birthday! Not cool. lol So I think I'll do a couple short water-only fasts between now and the ex's arrival. I usually go from Friday after dinner, through Saturday, then start with juice Sunday morning.

I did the boot camp DVD after I had been doing Tae Bo for a while, so I was able to go the whole 55 minutes or whatever, but I just couldn't do all those abs! :D I believe the Jumpstart Cardio is around 36 minutes and that includes stretches before and after, so maybe 30 minutes of cardio? At any rate, I always just do what I can and know I'll work up to doing more.

The fried plantains sound yummy, haven't had those in a long time! Is ackee similar to another kind of fruit? I've never even heard of it. Good luck on your test!

Hi,
Just dropped in.
Ackee is Jamaica's national fruit (http://wwwchem.uwimona.edu.jm/lectures/ackee.html) , usually eaten with codfish and fried dumplings and some fried plaintains too.... mmmmm real good.
When is your birthday and when is the ex coming?
I think those short fasts will do for now. Anytime away from food is usually a good rest for the system. I'll do the same :)
30 minutes of cardio should be ok for me :)
Going to read... later.

[freewitheft]

Hey all

Hoping someone will be able to guide me as I am trying to transition into raw food lifestyle. I did by the book 12 Steps to Raw Food and I already love what I am reading so far! I definitely want to make the lifestyle change but I am not sure if I should do another cleanse...

On August 1st , I did the Master Cleanse for 14 days. I was planning on going for 21 days, but I cheated and when I went out on the weekend, I ended up eating. I tried to go back on the cleanse 3 days later, but in another week I was back to eating junk/processed food when I was going out.

Now I still do my SWF in the morning and I have an occasional spicy lemonade here and there, but for the past two weeks, I have been eating out and having lots of junk :(

My question is, should I just start a new Master Cleanse the beginning of next month and do the 21 days and then slowly work my way into raw food? As you can tell, I do have a junk/processed/cooked food addiction and I would love to be able to curb it!

If I started another Master Cleanse in September, would that be too much cleansing since I did 14 days in August. I read somewhere that you should only do 1 MC every 3-4 months...?

Please advise b/c I desparately want to do raw food and kick my bad food addiction - but I am really struggling! Thanks for reading

Hi there! You know, you did awesome with your 14-day MC. Congrats! I would normally plan to do 3-4 MCs a year myself, except I'm in major healing mode right now. ;) So, I just listen to my body. I don't think the cleansing itself would be an issue, but more about how long one can go on restricted calories. If I were feeling weak and increasing lemonades didn't help (last time I felt a difference in less than 24 hours) then I would probably stop it. But as long as I'm feeling ok...I'm gonna go for it!

[freewitheft]

Hi,
Just dropped in.
Ackee is Jamaica's national fruit (http://wwwchem.uwimona.edu.jm/lectures/ackee.html) , usually eaten with codfish and fried dumplings and some fried plaintains too.... mmmmm real good.
When is your birthday and when is the ex coming?
I think those short fasts will do for now. Anytime away from food is usually a good rest for the system. I'll do the same :)
30 minutes of cardio should be ok for me :)
Going to read... later.

Oh wow, ackee comes from an evergreen. That's very cool. Not usually what one thinks of in terms of fruit!

My birthday is on the 5th and ex arrives on the 9th, staying til the 14th. My acupuncturist advises not to cleanse at the change of season, so I'll probably wait until after the 21st to start. *sigh* Planning to fast this weekend, but may have some work to do that involves lifting boxes. Not a good combo, but we'll see. Hopefully it will work out! lol

[Bridge]

Oh wow, ackee comes from an evergreen. That's very cool. Not usually what one thinks of in terms of fruit!

My birthday is on the 5th and ex arrives on the 9th, staying til the 14th. My acupuncturist advises not to cleanse at the change of season, so I'll probably wait until after the 21st to start. *sigh* Planning to fast this weekend, but may have some work to do that involves lifting boxes. Not a good combo, but we'll see. Hopefully it will work out! lol

I skipped breakfast and lunch today for pure water, my mini water fast I guess :) Every now and again I am reminded that I haven't had any food yet. Planning to eat when I get home later. I stopped by my mom this morning and asked her to prepare some steamed vegetables for me for later. I will have that along with some kind of protein, like fish :)

A question here, can I resume taking vitamins now?

[Tanyazl1]

Hey all

Hoping someone will be able to guide me as I am trying to transition into raw food lifestyle. I did by the book 12 Steps to Raw Food and I already love what I am reading so far! I definitely want to make the lifestyle change but I am not sure if I should do another cleanse...

On August 1st , I did the Master Cleanse for 14 days. I was planning on going for 21 days, but I cheated and when I went out on the weekend, I ended up eating. I tried to go back on the cleanse 3 days later, but in another week I was back to eating junk/processed food when I was going out.

Now I still do my SWF in the morning and I have an occasional spicy lemonade here and there, but for the past two weeks, I have been eating out and having lots of junk :(

My question is, should I just start a new Master Cleanse the beginning of next month and do the 21 days and then slowly work my way into raw food? As you can tell, I do have a junk/processed/cooked food addiction and I would love to be able to curb it!

If I started another Master Cleanse in September, would that be too much cleansing since I did 14 days in August. I read somewhere that you should only do 1 MC every 3-4 months...?

Please advise b/c I desparately want to do raw food and kick my bad food addiction - but I am really struggling! Thanks for reading

jilene_f

Since you completed a somewhat extended 14 days, I would suggest you give your body three to four months to recover before you do another MC.

Persevere with one meal at a time. You are on the right track with seeking out a raw food way of life. A raw food cuisine will also detox your system, just at a slower rate than the MC...Planning is important and will help you stay on track. I would also suggest keeping a food journal to focus your intentions. You may want to start with one green smoothie recipe from the 12 Steps for breakfast each morning. This site has lots of post regarding raw food recipes and books...I too have a few ideas for a transitional diet...If you are interested, send me a private to further discuss alternatives.

You will be successful; It takes time,

Tanya

[freewitheft]

I skipped breakfast and lunch today for pure water, my mini water fast I guess :) Every now and again I am reminded that I haven't had any food yet. Planning to eat when I get home later. I stopped by my mom this morning and asked her to prepare some steamed vegetables for me for later. I will have that along with some kind of protein, like fish :)

A question here, can I resume taking vitamins now?

Hey Bridge,

Yes, you can take the vitamins. I take mine separately rather than a multi so I added them back one at a time.

How are things going? I'm still planning to do one of my short water fasts this weekend. Truly, though, I can't wait to do another MC. I feel sooooooooooo good then. lol

[Bridge]

Hi,
I am just getting to check the posts.
Haven't been making any smoothies lately. I have also been drinking juice mix (from concentrate) with my dinner and I feel guilty about it so I am trying to drink more water during the days instead of anything else. Haven't gained anything. But my urge for snacking is sneaking up on me :( Yeah we need the MC. I have got to get in control though.
Yesterday for dinner, I had baked chicken with 1/2 cup rice and peas, lettuce, carrot, tomato and some green giant 3 bean salad. I made the drink from some fruit punch concentrate and tipped a little rum in it. It was gooood and refreshing. I will have some more when I have my left over dinner this evening :)
Later.

[freewitheft]

Hey Bridge, don't feel bad. I still enjoy a gluten-free beer in the evening. :p

I did a water fast this weekend. Still having some MS symptoms like tingling in my feet, and usually a fast takes care of that stuff. Have been beating myself up trying to figure out what I'm eating that I shouldn't be. Then I realized it might be stress, which is a huge trigger for MS. Even though I don't feel stressed out about it, I imagine it has to do with ex's arrival. :rolleyes:

[Bridge]

Hey Bridge, don't feel bad. I still enjoy a gluten-free beer in the evening. :p

I did a water fast this weekend. Still having some MS symptoms like tingling in my feet, and usually a fast takes care of that stuff. Have been beating myself up trying to figure out what I'm eating that I shouldn't be. Then I realized it might be stress, which is a huge trigger for MS. Even though I don't feel stressed out about it, I imagine it has to do with ex's arrival. :rolleyes:

Before I forget, let me wish you a Happy Birthday! Don't have your email address to send you an ecard. Hope you will enjoy it and not feel too anxious about you know what :)
Tell me about it all, later.

[freewitheft]

Thanks Bridge! We had a great weekend. On Saturday and Sunday, we went to the demolition derby and had a blast. Then we went to the county fair today. Two days til the ex arrives. Still don't feel stressed about it, but body is telling me otherwise. CAN'T WAIT to do another MC soon, it will be a good physical AND emotional cleansing. :p

The other thing is that I'm really falling off the wagon with staying raw all day til dinner. I bought my first loaf of gluten-free bread since June, and I just finished it up after having some every day. Lots of avocado and tomato sandwiches. YUM! Anyways, even though I'm eating healthy, it's not where I want to be or where I was a few weeks ago. Think I'm just going to have to continue this cycle of cleansing, trying to stay more raw, then starting over when I start slipping. Eventually, the changes will stick. lol

[Bridge]

Hi Crystal,
Even though you said you are falling off the raw diet thingie, you are doing pretty good. I haven't made a smoothie in a good while, trying to do the water thing, but by lunch time I am very hungry. Instead of eating a sandwich or a salad (neither of which is available for me to purchase at work), I ended up eating a biscuit :( Somehow my scale said I dropped another pound on Sunday, 181lbs. That's good considering....I wonder what the doctor's scale would say ;)
Later

[fleur de framboise]

My mum and I are on day 7 of our first 10 day master cleanse. It is going wonderfully. Day 10 will be this coming friday so on saturday we are planning to fresh squeeze organic oranges for our orange juice and prepare to make out soup.I just have one question; we are going to a dinner party and we are in charge of bringing the salad. We are planning on making a very light, vegan salad with only a bit of olive oil and vinegar. How terrible would it be if we ate the salad at the dinner party on sunday night? Sunday is only our second day off of the cleanse, and I know on the third day it's okay to have the salad. What do you think? Any feedback would be helpful.

[Tanyazl1]

My mum and I are on day 7 of our first 10 day master cleanse. It is going wonderfully. Day 10 will be this coming friday so on saturday we are planning to fresh squeeze organic oranges for our orange juice and prepare to make out soup.I just have one question; we are going to a dinner party and we are in charge of bringing the salad. We are planning on making a very light, vegan salad with only a bit of olive oil and vinegar. How terrible would it be if we ate the salad at the dinner party on sunday night? Sunday is only our second day off of the cleanse, and I know on the third day it's okay to have the salad. What do you think? Any feedback would be helpful.

I would recommend following the cleanse. You could activate detox symptoms that make you want to die...read some of the other post of people that didn't transition properly in the "What day are you on" thread, most recent post I believe by Evita is an example of not transitioning properly. Find her posts starting on Page 626. Sunnyrae has also provide Evita pretty good tips. It will also be a boost to your esteem and will power for future cleanses it you do it exactly as required.

Make the salad, but I strongly recommend not eating anything.

Who shouldn't cleanse: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/show...05&postcount=5

Detox symptoms, they can occur after the cleanse, too: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/show...8&postcount=22

Experiencing heavy detox symptoms: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/show...39&postcount=6

Emotional detox: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/show...4&postcount=26


Ride the wave and research, research, research! There is a wealth of information in the MC Library. Use the link in my signature line for General Help for Newbies!

Good Luck!

Tanya

[Evita]

Yes, I transitioned too quickly and mind you I exercise regularly (like 10 hours a work or more), I eat very cleanly most of the time and I believe I had a few crackers with some hummus the day after coming off the cleanse. I have been very sick ever since. I, in fact, did do all that research and then some. I made the HUGE error of following my husband's lead and just eating. He has suffered no ill consequences. I have been ill since last Thursday. I am taking enzymes, probiotics, am now able to eat small amounts of miso soup and cannot eat anything solid yet. My husband is eating everything and anything. I should have followed the correct transition. We're all different and I have a very sensitive digestive tract to begin with hence the reason I eat so cleanly. I IMPLORE anyone reading this to transition the right way. I will do this again in a few months but I have learned the hard way from my mistake. I may end up seeing a doctor in the next few days if this doesn't clear up. I don't want to scare you but go slowly. That hummus and cracker was going to be there after my transition. I should have done what I had planned to do. Even had the fresh oranges in the fridge ready to go. Don't give into any temptation even if you've known or read people who have just come off and eaten. It's not worth the risk. I won't break a cleanse like this again. Imagine if I'd been a junk food eater?

[pinklemonade]

hi there..

i did my mc back in january for 14days and after that i have been adopting more raw food diet.
then i did green juice fasting followed by gallbladder stone flush a few months ago.

my question is that i noticed that i have a big horizontal line on my toenails....
i went to see a dr and she thinks it is from mc. and i did some google research and might be "beau's line"??

"Beau's Lines are nails that are characterized by horizontal lines of darkened cells and linear depressions. This disorder may be caused by trauma, illness, malnutrition or any major metabolic condition, chemotherapy or other damaging event, and is the result of any interruption in the protein formation of the nail plate. Seek a physicians diagnosis" (http://www.hooked-on-nails.com/naildisorders.html)

does anyone out there having the same problem??

i am freaking out...:eek::eek::eek:

thanks!

[freewitheft]

Hi Crystal,
Even though you said you are falling off the raw diet thingie, you are doing pretty good. I haven't made a smoothie in a good while, trying to do the water thing, but by lunch time I am very hungry. Instead of eating a sandwich or a salad (neither of which is available for me to purchase at work), I ended up eating a biscuit :( Somehow my scale said I dropped another pound on Sunday, 181lbs. That's good considering....I wonder what the doctor's scale would say ;)
Later

Hey Bridge! Hope you are hanging in there. :) I'm not going by a scale, I don't bother anymore (after years and years, I'm finally at a normal BMI so I've walked away from the scale!) but I do see a little more pudge spilling out over the top of my jeans. lol It's not so much about losing weight, but I know that if that happens, I'm not eating the way I should. Soooooooo, I think I'm gonna do a 10-day starting next Monday.

Never got around to the parasite cleanse yet. Can't decide if I'm gonna do that first after the MC, or try oil pulling. I guess I have some time to decide!

[Tanyazl1]

hi there..

i did my mc back in january for 14days and after that i have been adopting more raw food diet.
then i did green juice fasting followed by gallbladder stone flush a few months ago.

my question is that i noticed that i have a big horizontal line on my toenails....
i went to see a dr and she thinks it is from mc. and i did some google research and might be "beau's line"??

"Beau's Lines are nails that are characterized by horizontal lines of darkened cells and linear depressions. This disorder may be caused by trauma, illness, malnutrition or any major metabolic condition, chemotherapy or other damaging event, and is the result of any interruption in the protein formation of the nail plate. Seek a physicians diagnosis" (http://www.hooked-on-nails.com/naildisorders.html)

does anyone out there having the same problem??

i am freaking out...:eek::eek::eek:

thanks!

Hi Pinklemonade :)

I'm not a medical physician nor a licensed homeopathic doctor. But, it sounds like you completed two or three types of fasts in a short period of time. :( I would recommend against doing several types of cleanses without the supervision of a homeopathic specialist or licensed nutritionist. I don't readily trust traditional medical opinions that rely upon pharmaceuticals which in some cases do not address the root cause of medical conditions. You may want to seek the opinion and guidance of a licensed homeopathic practitioner.

Your going to be just fine...concentrate on healthy living. Your toenails take twice as long to grow than fingernails; and, nails grow slower in winter months. I encourage you to give yourself six to eight months before embarking upon another MC, and to seek professional assistance if you wish to mix several fasts. You have first hand experience on how you can potentially upset you chemistry.

Please read the following post by a MC Senior Member found in the MC library: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26416&postcount=31 .

The MC library link can be found in the General Help for Newbies found in my signature line.

[Bridge]

Hey Bridge! Hope you are hanging in there. :) I'm not going by a scale, I don't bother anymore (after years and years, I'm finally at a normal BMI so I've walked away from the scale!) but I do see a little more pudge spilling out over the top of my jeans. lol It's not so much about losing weight, but I know that if that happens, I'm not eating the way I should. Soooooooo, I think I'm gonna do a 10-day starting next Monday.

Never got around to the parasite cleanse yet. Can't decide if I'm gonna do that first after the MC, or try oil pulling. I guess I have some time to decide!

Just got around to reading this posts and don't remember seeing a reminder in my yahoo mail. Good luck again!

[freewitheft]

Bummer you can't join in til next week! I think I've decided I'm gonna try the oil pulling next when I come off this MC. Have been reading so much good stuff about it!

[pinklemonade]

Dear Tanyazl1

thank you very much for your advise.
Much appreciated it!

I will focus on my healthy living as your advise.

Cheers!!

Tomoko:):):)

[shayshaylafemme]

Hi all,

This is my first post and I am on day 10 of my first MC (yay)! I have a few questions regarding the first 3 days after the cleanse:

I plan on doing the orange juice all day tomorrow and I wanted to know if unpasteurized orange juice from the farmers market is safe to consume. I'm almost certain the pasteurized version is a no no and after 10 days of squeezing lemons, i dont feel like squeezing anymore (plus I hate pulp in my oj)! However, if the fresh, unpasteurized version is too risky, i'll squeeze it myself. If I do squeeze it myself, about how many oranges should I get for 2 days worth of juice?

Also, how soon after day 10 is it safe to consume pistachio nuts? I have a big bag staring me in the face and I want to devour them but I dont want to make myself sick.

This master cleanse has been a wonderful experience for me. My "baby pouch" is gone, I don't feel bloated, I have tons of energy and my menstruation has been delightlfully light. I plan on doing it twice a year during both equinoxes. Although I am a meat eater, I also plan on making sure to add more fruits and vegetables to my diet and limiting my consumption to meat products to dinner time (mainly focusing on fish, chicken and turkey).

[Bobolink]

Hi,
Has any one had any troulbe getting back to normal bowel movements after the cleanse. I ended about a month ago and have been pretty much constipated ever since. I eat a bacically vegetarian diet. HELP!!!
Bobolink

[Tanyazl1]

Hi all,

This is my first post and I am on day 10 of my first MC (yay)! I have a few questions regarding the first 3 days after the cleanse:

I plan on doing the orange juice all day tomorrow and I wanted to know if unpasteurized orange juice from the farmers market is safe to consume. I'm almost certain the pasteurized version is a no no and after 10 days of squeezing lemons, i dont feel like squeezing anymore (plus I hate pulp in my oj)! However, if the fresh, unpasteurized version is too risky, i'll squeeze it myself. If I do squeeze it myself, about how many oranges should I get for 2 days worth of juice?

Also, how soon after day 10 is it safe to consume pistachio nuts? I have a big bag staring me in the face and I want to devour them but I dont want to make myself sick.

This master cleanse has been a wonderful experience for me. My "baby pouch" is gone, I don't feel bloated, I have tons of energy and my menstruation has been delightlfully light. I plan on doing it twice a year during both equinoxes. Although I am a meat eater, I also plan on making sure to add more fruits and vegetables to my diet and limiting my consumption to meat products to dinner time (mainly focusing on fish, chicken and turkey).

Congratulations Shayshay!

Read this link on how to break the fast: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25587&postcount=28. There are many more tips in the General help for Newbies link located in my signature line.

Then visit the after the cleanse link for more information about eating. :)

[Tanyazl1]

Hi,
Has any one had any troulbe getting back to normal bowel movements after the cleanse. I ended about a month ago and have been pretty much constipated ever since. I eat a bacically vegetarian diet. HELP!!!
Bobolink

Hey Bobolink,

Sorry to hear about your lack of BMs. :( It sounds like you are not drinking enough water. :eek: Drink at least half your weight in ounces daily. For example if you weigh 180 pounds, then drink 90 ounces of water daily. 8)

Read these links for additional insight:

Water: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14633&postcount=12

BM after the cleanse: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27042&postcount=33

Probiotics after the cleanse: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32915&postcount=37


Best,

Tanya

[freewitheft]

Sooooo, I'm now 5 days post-MC and enjoying food again. Just had a banana with sunbutter. :p I haven't taken my measurements to see where I'm at in term of % body fat this time. I feel like I managed to get rid of some more fat. Now back to building some muscle! I was looking at my arms the other day and I think they are close to where I want them. I don't like the way they look when the muscles are too developed (you know, the Madonna arm thing, lol) so I will probably stop using hand weights with the Tae Bo pretty soon. It will be weird to be moving to an easier workout instead of harder!

Hate to move onto something unpleasant, but after 3 MC's I can definitely say it's no coincidence....I have a hemorrhoid that only bothers me post-cleanse. I've never had one in my life, even with pregnancy. But now I do. ugh I read that the senna tea can be the problem. If it was bothering me during the MC, I guess I would have to figure something else out. But it doesn't bother me until afterwards, I think because I'm eating lots of fiber again and bulking up the BM's. Oh joy! I will be dreading the trip to the bathroom for a couple of weeks. :(

If anyone has any ideas of what I can use next MC instead of senna tea, I would love to hear about it!

[Bridge]

Wow! I have never heard of senna causing hemorrhoids. That's really weird cause you would have been having lots of liquids to make going easier. I remember now that my problem was that I didn't have any BMs after the MC and had to go back to the senna. Or, I would feel like I wanted to go but there wasn't anything, after I tried hard ;) Maybe you should switch to all liquids again or just wait it out.

[freewitheft]

What I read is that if you have hemorrhoids, the senna can aggravate them. In my case, I think it must have caused it because I have never had one til the MC! I'm just gonna wait it out, I don't think I have the discipline to go back to just liquids right now. :rolleyes: I guess it's just a matter of mindset. When I'm on the MC it's no problem at all to stick to it.

Yeah, I remember that you were having problems keeping things moving afterwards. You know what did it for me this time? A big old smoothie (day 3 post-MC) with banana, strawberries, hemp powder, agave, and almond milk. I was in the bathroom before I could finish it. :D

[Newme1114]

Hello All:
I am on Day 10 of my first MC! I can't believe that I did it!! I am so happy that I was able to make it through this. :D

My goal is to introduce a mostly raw food diet, and I am really looking forward to it. I got my Juiceman Juicer on sale (so pleased with that purchase!) yesterday, so I will be using it to prepare my OJ. I saw on one of the links from a post by Tanya (THANKS A MILLION) about how to break the fast if you plan on adopting the raw lifestyle. Have any of you tried it? How has it been going for you?

[freewitheft]

Congrats newme!!! I always try to increase the amount of raw I'm eating, but am not dedicated to the lifestyle. So, I do eat cooked veggie soup when I come off the MC. Good luck to ya!

[Newme1114]

Morning! Day one after the cleanse, and I am really enjoying my freshly juiced OJ. Looking forward to being able to eat again. Definitely have to use the bathroom a lot more (#1);), but at least I didn't have to do the SWF this morning!:D

Have a great day everyone!

[freewitheft]

Hi Newme! Just checking to see how it's going. Did you have some soup yet? :D

[freewitheft]

So, I'm about a week and a half post-MC now, and I started oil pulling this morning. It's recommended to do it at least 10 minutes, but 15-20 minutes is better. I made it to about 15 minutes I think. I'm using sesame oil, which doesn't taste bad at all when you are swishing, but is kind of yucky when you spit it out. lol

At any rate, I'm doing this now because I like to try different detox and healing treatments separately, so I know which results come from which approach. I'm just going to do oil pulling everyday for at least a month. I will stop before I try a parasite cleanse, probably sometime in November. Then I plan to do another 10-day MC just before the holidays and finish by mid-December. I think most plan to do it just after the holidays, but I want to head into that time looking and feeling my best. :D

[Bridge]

So, I'm about a week and a half post-MC now, and I started oil pulling this morning. It's recommended to do it at least 10 minutes, but 15-20 minutes is better. I made it to about 15 minutes I think. I'm using sesame oil, which doesn't taste bad at all when you are swishing, but is kind of yucky when you spit it out. lol

At any rate, I'm doing this now because I like to try different detox and healing treatments separately, so I know which results come from which approach. I'm just going to do oil pulling everyday for at least a month. I will stop before I try a parasite cleanse, probably sometime in November. Then I plan to do another 10-day MC just before the holidays and finish by mid-December. I think most plan to do it just after the holidays, but I want to head into that time looking and feeling my best. :D

Hey there Crystal, I see you are taking the detox further. Good for you. Does the swishing replace toothpaste? Are you sure it is safe to be doing so many detox, one after the other. Doesn't your body need to regulate itself and have some point where it returns to normal? According to Peter "You run the risk of using up your alkaline minerals by doing the MC too frequently." Just read that in my email this morning.
Haven't started the next MC yet. I have requested a bottle of MS from a friend who went on trip - where it should be cheaper :) I haven't a smoothie in a while too. Maybe I will just have to try and make it the night before as I rush in the mornings (myself and the girls).
Take care.

[Tanyazl1]

Hello Lemonheads!

Here's a link I found on this site regarding weigh loss, weigh gain, and the true purpose of the cleanse: http://therawfoodsite.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26421&postcount=32

Tanya:

[freewitheft]

Hey there Crystal, I see you are taking the detox further. Good for you. Does the swishing replace toothpaste? Are you sure it is safe to be doing so many detox, one after the other. Doesn't your body need to regulate itself and have some point where it returns to normal? According to Peter "You run the risk of using up your alkaline minerals by doing the MC too frequently." Just read that in my email this morning.
Haven't started the next MC yet. I have requested a bottle of MS from a friend who went on trip - where it should be cheaper :) I haven't a smoothie in a while too. Maybe I will just have to try and make it the night before as I rush in the mornings (myself and the girls).
Take care.

Yeah, different detoxing isn't so much an issue other than possible Herxheimer reactions (the "it gets worse before it gets better" stuff). I wouldn't want to do the MC too often,though, because it's a fast. This kind of stuff (oil pulling, taking chlorella, colon cleanse powders, etc) is WAY less taxing on the body than the MC. That said, a parasite cleanse uses pretty heavy-duty herbs...one of the reasons I haven't gotten to it yet even though it's been on my list a long time!

I go back and forth with the smoothies myself. I'm putting fresh pineapple on my shopping list to hopefully get me back in the groove! My acupuncturist gave me some ayurvedic herbs for strengthening the nervous system, and it seems that in smoothies is the only way I remember to take them.

[SusieDetox]

*After The Cleanse*

This is where we can continue supporting each other when we're done cleansing in all the same ways we did during the cleanse. :)

Love,
~Res

Hi there Res. Question: When can I re-introduce hummus and cheese? These are staples in my diet. What about eggs and chicken and meat? Noone seems to address this as so many are vegan or raw but for those of us flesheaters who want to do it right I'd love some guidance. Thanks!

[Res]

Give yourself a week or so for the cheese and meat, hummus etc. I know people who ate too soon and the stomach pains are just not worth it. Also try not to do meat and cheese at the same time right away. Know what I mean. Do cheese one day, then meat the next etc. :)

I eat meat, free range grass fed and free range chicken. I also eat organic eggs and raw cheese. :) If I could handle raw milk, I'd drink that too periodically. I've done a LOT of research and when you eat closest to the earth and as pure as possible you're good to go. :)

[bjbub]

Give yourself a week or so for the cheese and meat, hummus etc. I know people who ate too soon and the stomach pains are just not worth it. Also try not to do meat and cheese at the same time right away. Know what I mean. Do cheese one day, then meat the next etc. :)

I eat meat, free range grass fed and free range chicken. I also eat organic eggs and raw cheese. :) If I could handle raw milk, I'd drink that too periodically. I've done a LOT of research and when you eat closest to the earth and as pure as possible you're good to go. :)

I'm so glad to hear what you had to say about the meat, cheese and milk. We raise our own chickens, organically, semi free range, so I don't worry about the meat or eggs. We buy a quarter beef each fall from a friend who does free range alfalfa fed steers and I buy raw milk from a local Amish family and make my own soft cheeses. I do eat a lot of fruits and veggies as we grow most of our own and I want to incorporate more raw fruits and veggies into my winter diet, but I don't really want to go vegan. I'm glad to hear that you think this is a healthy diet. Hey, maybe that's why I haven't seen some of the dramatic changes. I was eating even healthier than I thought!!:)

[Res]

I'm so glad to hear what you had to say about the meat, cheese and milk. We raise our own chickens, organically, semi free range, so I don't worry about the meat or eggs. We buy a quarter beef each fall from a friend who does free range alfalfa fed steers and I buy raw milk from a local Amish family and make my own soft cheeses. I do eat a lot of fruits and veggies as we grow most of our own and I want to incorporate more raw fruits and veggies into my winter diet, but I don't really want to go vegan. I'm glad to hear that you think this is a healthy diet. Hey, maybe that's why I haven't seen some of the dramatic changes. I was eating even healthier than I thought!!:)

This could open up a whopper of an arguement but most people really need meat. I went all raw for 3 months and could tell it wasn't for me. Too many body issues dealing with all raw and no cooked food.

Gosh your farm sounds ideal! :)

[Gloriah]

Hey all,
I am on d2 after my cleanse. I had some broth last night, and today along with more oj and my lemon drink.
I am wondering how long it takes generally to have a BM. I didn't drink the tea last night, as I found that the OJ was flushing things through for me. I started on BIO K today, a probiotic in liquid form and would rather not drink the laxative tea tonight as I want my body to start doing it on its own. But I am a little concerned that nothing happened today. Should I take the tea tonight until my body kicks in? thoughts?

[mtmouse]

Hi Gloriah,

I wouldn't take the tea again--or SWF or any other laxative. It can take 2-3 days after a cleanse to have a regular BM, so don't worry. Just do the transition slowly. Once you start eating foods with fiber again, you'll see results.

Congratulations on your successful cleanse!

[Gloriah]

Hi Gloriah,

I wouldn't take the tea again--or SWF or any other laxative. It can take 2-3 days after a cleanse to have a regular BM, so don't worry. Just do the transition slowly. Once you start eating foods with fiber again, you'll see results.

Congratulations on your successful cleanse!

Thanks Kathy!
Happy Health to you as well!:)

[KaceeK]

I recently finished a ten day cleanse after starting on January 2nd, 2010. I am now trying to eat mostly raw: orange juice or 1/2 grapefruit for breakfast, green smoothie (kale or spinach, banana, almond milk, a splash of OJ, water, and a teaspoon each of hemp seed, soaked flax seed, and bee pollen, sometimes with a few almonds thrown in) and then a salad or something like that for dinner. I've cheated a few times, like I had sushi last night and a few bites of a spinach wrap filled with cooked veggies for lunch today, interspersed with a few other meals or bites of cooked food, but usually i've stayed eating pretty healthy).

However, I'm terrified of gaining the weight back. How do you prevent that? My metabolism feels so slow, I feel that eating an apple or a handful of nuts will instantaneously make me gain 5 pounds, and I may be imagining things but I swear I'm fatter.

Other than that, I'm wondering if eating pure or 70% raw is the best diet for everyone or should I perhaps eat for my blood type? I have B blood and according to the diet should be eating gamey meats, veggies, and lots of milk/cheese/yogurt. Anyone tried both and felt better on one or the otehr? I can't find much scientific evidence based on the eat for your blood type diet, so would love first hand accounts. Thanks!

Also, how do I access the recipe section of this post?

Kacee

[Lahontani]

I recently finished a ten day cleanse after starting on January 2nd, 2010.
However, I'm terrified of gaining the weight back. How do you prevent that? My metabolism feels so slow, I feel that eating an apple or a handful of nuts will instantaneously make me gain 5 pounds, and I may be imagining things but I swear I'm fatter.
Other than that, I'm wondering if eating pure or 70% raw is the best diet for everyone or should I perhaps eat for my blood type? I have B blood and according to the diet should be eating gamey meats, veggies, and lots of milk/cheese/yogurt. Anyone tried both and felt better on one or the otehr? I can't find much scientific evidence based on the eat for your blood type diet, so would love first hand accounts.
Also, how do I access the recipe section of this post?

Well, not gaining the weight back - there's the rub...I wish I could give you an answer, but that is a huge challenge for me, too. I have found that the better I transition, the easier it is to keep the weight off. I have never gained weight back IMMEDIATELY after starting to eat solids, but generally find that I gain 3 lbs. back in the first week of eating "normally." Then I usually stay at that 3 lbs. over my last cleanse plateau, as long as I pay attention to eating well. It's only when life gets too busy to THINK about what I am putting in my mouth that the weight starts creeping back up.

I have never made a resolution to start eating raw. Partly because I have studied so much anthropology and the correlates of cooking/tool making/hunting/brain expansion are too strongly ingrained in me. Also, I LIKE the texture and temperature of cooked food. BUT - as a nutrition conscious person - about half the food I eat is raw anyway - without me having to try for it.
Some of the raw recipes people have talked about on the cleanse sound sooo fantastic, I am interested in trying them, but as a tourist into the raw mindset, not as a commitment. We'll see - maybe if I am blown away by the taste of raw cheesecake, I will convert. :D

I have never tried the "eating for your blood type" diet - but have tried Ayurvedic diet - which is eating for your body type. I didn't see any benefits over the type of diet I prefer, which is an allergen elimination diet. I have mild food allergies to many common foods (wheat, rice, tomatoes, mushrooms, etc.) so I just try to eat whole, natural, unprocessed foods, and try to avoid foods I have issues with. :)

To get to the food recipe section, go to the home page. On the left hand side there is a green menu. One choice says something like "Raw Food Lifestyle". Click on that, and you will get a page of threads. One is the "raw foods recipe book" another is the re-incarnated "soup recipes" thread.

I know this thread has been dead, but there are a bunch of us who are ending cleanses soon, who plan to be here for a while...so I hope you didn't give up, but come back and see this message!

Ciao! Plans for today: squeeze some more oj, run to the store for food for the next 4 days, then cook my veggie soup. HEAVEN!!

[Res]

Lahontani

HAHAHA, raw cheesecake. Yum. I tried strictly raw for 90 days and had intestinal issues. I'll leave it at that. As soon as I added cooked food back into my diet the problems stopped. Some people swear by all raw but I just can't. I'm a meat eater as well but just free range, grass fed.

There are a variety of recipes in the recipe box and the fun part is not committing to all raw and just playing around with recipes. We did that for quite a while and one would make something and then tell all the others about it and well then we'd have to make it too. I still have several favorites from the raw food challenge and recipe box. You could live you life with the recipes in both places. :)

I'm so excited about getting back here. There's something to be said about eating right and how it makes you feel. What gets me down the road is the convenience of picking something up from the store already made. But the bad part is I feel like crap and pay for it. I need this at the forefront of my mind at all times and it's not.....but it is now. ;)

[Lahontani]

Thanks for the input, Res. I have intestinal problems, too, specifically "leaky gut" syndrome. This is what led to my being overweight in the first place. It took me years to figure out what was wrong, and more years to find what worked to help get me back on track. I have gone almost 200 days without drinking soda, which is what caused the leaky gut syndrome in the first place. If you're not familiar with it, this is essentially irritating your bowels so that the pores are larger than they should be, and food passes through when not completely digested - resulting in inadequate nutritional absorption (so you're always hungry for more, even when you eat really nutritious food) and the poorly processed food being stored as fat -- a double whammy!

Anyway...on to probiotics and better health. Just had my broth - and it was GREAT! I cheated a little...the funny thing is that I didn't have enough fresh bell peppers...and I had about 1/4 bag of mixed peppers in the freezer, so I plopped that into the soup...and out came a frozen shrimp!!! I remember when I put it in there - I had been making shrimp fajitas, and there was 1 shrimp left over that I'd missed...tossed it in the bag and froze it with the peppers. LOL.

[Res]

Thanks for the input, Res. I have intestinal problems, too, specifically "leaky gut" syndrome. This is what led to my being overweight in the first place. It took me years to figure out what was wrong, and more years to find what worked to help get me back on track. I have gone almost 200 days without drinking soda, which is what caused the leaky gut syndrome in the first place. If you're not familiar with it, this is essentially irritating your bowels so that the pores are larger than they should be, and food passes through when not completely digested - resulting in inadequate nutritional absorbtion (so you're always hungry for more, even when you eat really nutritious food) and the poorly processed food being stored as fat -- a double whammy!

Anyway...on to probiotics and better health. Just had my broth - and it was GREAT! I cheated a little...the funny thing is that I didn't have enough fresh bell peppers...and I had about 1/4 bag of mixed peppers in the freezer, so I plopped that into the soup...and out came a frozen shrimp!!! I remember when I put it in there - I had been making shrimp fajitas, and there was 1 shrimp left over that I'd missed...tossed it in the bag and froze it with the peppers. LOL.

ROFL! @ the plopping shrimp! I don't think it's gonna kill ya. ;)

Oh hey, Soda is the devil! Seriously! GREAT JOB for being 200 days off of that poison! Supposedly they use Coke on car batteries to dissolve the acid build up on the battery. Think about that! Egads.

So, soon I'll be more in here and messing with recipes and blabbing. I'm glad you're here. :D Lets' see who else shows up. This place helps with accountability as long as you want it to. :)

[Lahontani]

Well, the problems have already started. A co-worker for whom I brought veggie soup, wanted to reciprocate and brought this big beautiful hand-baked artichoke and cheese bread. Oh, MY!!! So, there was an entire staff meeting accompanied by soup and this bread, with even the president of the college in attendance, and there was just no way to turn down the bread without making a big giant stink and looking like an a*hole. So, I had some bread...and it was sooo good that I had 4 slices (wedges, really - got to be honest - thicker than mere slices). Damn! I did work out though. This is exactly the kind of situation that gets me in trouble! On the cleanse, I can avoid food altogether easier than I can avoid offending someone by eating MY food and rejecting THEIRS.

No, not the end of the world, I know. And I didn't have coffee or sugar or anything processed, or fast food. Still, I am not off to the good strong start I had hoped for and planned on.

Tomorrow is another day...JUST soup and beets! That's the plan.

[Res]

Well, the problems have already started. A co-worker for whom I brought veggie soup, wanted to reciprocate and brought this big beautiful hand-baked artichoke and cheese bread. Oh, MY!!! So, there was an entire staff meeting accompanied by soup and this bread, with even the president of the college in attendance, and there was just no way to turn down the bread without making a big giant stink and looking like an a*hole. So, I had some bread...and it was sooo good that I had 4 slices (wedges, really - got to be honest - thicker than mere slices). Damn! I did work out though. This is exactly the kind of situation that gets me in trouble! On the cleanse, I can avoid food altogether easier than I can avoid offending someone by eating MY food and rejecting THEIRS.

No, not the end of the world, I know. And I didn't have coffee or sugar or anything processed, or fast food. Still, I am not off to the good strong start I had hoped for and planned on.

Tomorrow is another day...JUST soup and beets! That's the plan.

More than anything I hope you enjoyed the moment. The more weight you put on how bad it was to eat it the more you're gonna want to eat it again. Any type of deprivation causes binging. So you ate bread, as you said not the best thing to do nor the end of the world. Today is a new day. :D

This is the place to come for support. :)

[jane65]

Hey guys, Today was my first day of O.J. so I completed 28 days! Yay!
My question is, when do I start probiotics. I'm going to do smooth move tonight and SWF in the morning, both for the last time. I can't find anything in Burroughs's book or Glickman's. I know I saw some discussion recently on here but after searching around I can't find it.
I was thinking I would start tomorrow.
Thanks,
Jane

[Lahontani]

Hey guys, Today was my first day of O.J. so I completed 28 days! Yay!
My question is, when do I start probiotics. I'm going to do smooth move tonight and SWF in the morning, both for the last time. I can't find anything in Burroughs's book or Glickman's. I know I saw some discussion recently on here but after searching around I can't find it.
I was thinking I would start tomorrow.
Thanks,
Jane

I always wait until I am done with the SWF, so I don't just flush all the pro-biotics right back out again. So for me, that means, with my first bowl of veggie soup.

[jane65]

I always wait until I am done with the SWF, so I don't just flush all the pro-biotics right back out again. So for me, that means, with my first bowl of veggie soup.

Thanks Lahontani, tomorrow will be post cleanse day 2 and I plan to continue with the O.J. tomorrow and then some soup (mostly broth) for dinner. I'll take my probiotics then

Cheers,
Jane

[Lahontani]

Day 3, post-cleanse (Seems like over a week!!!) I had the most delicious dinner!!! I took some veggies out of my veggie soup, put them in a tortilla with some avacado and salsa (no cheese). It was so wonderful!!
Did have coffee today, though...when I got up this morning it was snowing...and I thought, if I had to drive for 2 hours in the snow THAT early in the morning, dammit, I was having coffee. Will try to keep the coffee down to cold school days...:rolleyes:

[Res]

Hey guys, Today was my first day of O.J. so I completed 28 days! Yay!
My question is, when do I start probiotics. I'm going to do smooth move tonight and SWF in the morning, both for the last time. I can't find anything in Burroughs's book or Glickman's. I know I saw some discussion recently on here but after searching around I can't find it.
I was thinking I would start tomorrow.
Thanks,
Jane

HI Jane,

It's probably too late but you don't do the lax tea or swf the day before you break the cleanse. I always start the probiotics on the day I break the cleanse (oj day).

[Res]

Day 3, post-cleanse (Seems like over a week!!!) I had the most delicious dinner!!! I took some veggies out of my veggie soup, put them in a tortilla with some avacado and salsa (no cheese). It was so wonderful!!
Did have coffee today, though...when I got up this morning it was snowing...and I thought, if I had to drive for 2 hours in the snow THAT early in the morning, dammit, I was having coffee. Will try to keep the coffee down to cold school days...:rolleyes:

I drink organic coffed from trader joes. Sumatra to be precise and I'll never stop so no worries. :)

[Res]

It's great to see some activity in here!! :D

[jane65]

Thanks Res, I actually did the tea last night and the SWF this morning because I figured the O.J. was still a part of the fast. I probably won't do it again that way though because nothing notable came out, just O.J. pulp. So yesterday was my first day post cleanse and I stuck to the fresh sqeezed O.J. and some peppermint tea all day but last night I sipped some veggie soup broth, probably about 1/3 of a cup. I couldn't help it, it smelled soooo yummy and the broth by itself was delicious! I used Lahontani's recipe. I know I was supposed to wait til tonight but thankfully there were no ill effects.
I started my probiotics this morning after my first O.J.. I got the liquid refrigerated kind and it was kind of gross, very sour and chunky. I think I'll go for the tablets next time, although I feel like the refrigerated kind is probably more active.
I also got a referral to see a specialist about my yeast. I go today at 1. It's with an infectious disease doctor so we'll see. The funny thing is, I'm not yeasty right now so I'm hoping she runs some blood work or something. I'll post back after.
Can't wait to eat some healthy food :)
Does anyone know a good milk substitute for coffee? I don't want to use cream or milk anymore for my occasional cup, soy always seems to thin for me.
Thanks and happy post cleansing to Res, Lahontani, and whoever else!

[Res]

Thanks Res, I actually did the tea last night and the SWF this morning because I figured the O.J. was still a part of the fast. I probably won't do it again that way though because nothing notable came out, just O.J. pulp. So yesterday was my first day post cleanse and I stuck to the fresh sqeezed O.J. and some peppermint tea all day but last night I sipped some veggie soup broth, probably about 1/3 of a cup. I couldn't help it, it smelled soooo yummy and the broth by itself was delicious! I used Lahontani's recipe. I know I was supposed to wait til tonight but thankfully there were no ill effects.
I started my probiotics this morning after my first O.J.. I got the liquid refrigerated kind and it was kind of gross, very sour and chunky. I think I'll go for the tablets next time, although I feel like the refrigerated kind is probably more active.
I also got a referral to see a specialist about my yeast. I go today at 1. It's with an infectious disease doctor so we'll see. The funny thing is, I'm not yeasty right now so I'm hoping she runs some blood work or something. I'll post back after.
Can't wait to eat some healthy food :)
Does anyone know a good milk substitute for coffee? I don't want to use cream or milk anymore for my occasional cup, soy always seems to thin for me.
Thanks and happy post cleansing to Res, Lahontani, and whoever else!

Let us know what the doc says!

I really like using coconut cream for coffee. lol I also use organic heavy whipping cream. I can't tolerate milk but I have no problem with the cream. I don't use sugar.

Your chunky probiotic sounds hilarious. :D I buy the tables that have to be refrigerated. I have to pick them up on the way home from work today.

Anyone: I need a really good food processor. I buy the $40 black and decker kind and then destroy it in 6 months. I'd like the get the one Ani Phyo uses in her videos but I can't tell what it is. Any ideas anyone? I'm thinking Cuisinart.

[Res]

I'm so excited. Day 30. :D I have soup made, and walnuts already soaked for "Taco meat" fixings.
I have to stop at the store to pick up my grapefruits to squeeze tomorrow. Oh Happy Day!

I read something that took the stress out of being a meat eater and not an all raw eater. It's on that RawEpicurious.com site (which is where I've been getting all those recipes. Such a beautiful presentation. Makes me think of Sim. :)) She said on the site that not all people eat 100% raw but if you're at least eating raw you're doing good.

Food is a big deal when my family gets together. :)

[jane65]

OK, just got back from the Dr.. She didn't do any tests relating to yeast or candida but gave me a once a week for 4 weeks diflucan prescription. So I'll try it. I'm also sticking to the candida diet as much as possible.
Now I'm going to check out that web site about raw food that you posted Res.:)
Can't wait for my soup. I drank the juice like I was starving. It's so satisfying and sweet, hard to dink it slowly as suggested.

[Res]

OK, just got back from the Dr.. She didn't do any tests relating to yeast or candida but gave me a once a week for 4 weeks diflucan prescription. So I'll try it. I'm also sticking to the candida diet as much as possible.
Now I'm going to check out that web site about raw food that you posted Res.:)
Can't wait for my soup. I drank the juice like I was starving. It's so satisfying and sweet, hard to dink it slowly as suggested.

Don't forget to play in the Lemonhead Recipe box. A lot of new recipes in living color. :)

[jcross]

Well its day 4 off the cleanse and I'm doin' pretty good. I still haven't eaten any meat, which is suprising to me. I have been, LOVING salad! It really did reset my tastebuds. I cheated on my OJ day and nibbled on different foods without getting an upset stomach. Food has been tasting sooo good, but I've been trying to be moderate. I've been reading about the raw food challenge and have been trying to eat mostly raw foods. I can really tell a difference in my energy and mood since cleansing. I just gotta say thanks to Res for all the recipes and Peanutterb for all the info on raw foods.

[Res]

Oookay Everyone, What's in the fridge, what's in the dehydrator? (remember this game? lol)

1. Fridge, soaked walnuts & almonds
2. Grapefruit juice galore, and a fun green juice

Dehydrator:

1. Nothing - Yet! MUHAHAHAHA
Have almost all the ingredients for the Blueberry granola, Citrus maple granola, Pizza (new recipe) and Matt's onion bread that he makes into cute little boats to hold delicous concoctions.

I'm gonna be smart this time and load up every tray probably once a week or every two weeks if stuff lasts.

Can't wait to make Ani's stuffed pepper with black pepper cheese.

Your Turn!

[jane65]

Post cleanse day 2 here. Looks like I lost a total of 20 lbs. which is a nice jump start for me. I'm feeling really great about having completed this cleanse. I did my body a huge favor and I'm grateful for it. I'm also pretty psyched I was able to do it. Not many people can do a long fast like that. I definitely would not have been able to do it without this board. It's the most important tool for me.
I started yesterday with O.J. and got home and chowed my soup, like 3 bowls veggies and all. I know I'm only supposed to have mostly broth but I was ravenous (in my mind) and luckily had no ill effects.;)
I didn't see anything in either Burroughs or Peter's book about coming off a longer fast more slowly. I have seen some talk on here. I was lucky or ready for those veggies and soup.
This morning I had an orange for breakfast and some raspberry leaf tea and now, at work, I'm having a chai matte latte with soy milk. I could drink this every day. I think Matte has less ill effects than coffee, gonna have to look that one up. Salad for lunch and more soup for dinner.
I picked up some soy mozzarella cheese today at Trader Joe's. I'm gonna try to cut out real cheese as much as possible, I'm like an addict with that stuff.
I signed up an account with epicurious and saved some recipes. I LOVE THAT SITE! I think my friend was telling me about an ap on his iphone that my be the same as the website. It is really cleverly set up. I love the comments. New addiction for me. Can't wait to try the avocado dip I saved.
I hope everyone's doing well today:)

[Res]

Day 1 post cleanse: I have discovered that my mental state is totally dependent on my weight. A symbiotic relationship. I'm happier weighing less. So I guess my brain is detoxed too. :)

Ok, so where is everyone? C'mon now! :p

Grapefruit juice is, um, okay. I diluted it and have had about 3/4 of a cup. Doing well. :)

[Res]

Jane our posts crossed. :)

[Res]

Jane, have you done any soy research? Just wondering.

Have you tried Raw Milk cheese?

[jane65]

I guess I tripped over you on my way out Res. About the weight. I was thinking this morning how miserable I was weighing more than I would like, clothes feeling tight and uncomfortable, not looking or feeling as good. I though to myself, "remember that when the scale numbers start to climb. This is totally my responsibility and I owe it to myself to feel good.". I need to stay further away from the crappy food that I occasionally indulge in. It needs to happen way less frequently and hopefully not at all. Living with someone who wants to get healthy is a huge help. My significant other just finished the cleanse with me and he is totally absorbed in all the raw food books that my neighbor lent us. She also lent us her very nice mandolin which I'm excited to try. I'm glad to have her around, she's a nutritionist and is pretty knowledgeable about raw food.

[jane65]

Jane, have you done any soy research? Just wondering.

Have you tried Raw Milk cheese?

What I've learned about soy is that 80 to 90 % of soy is Genetically Modified so I don't want to get too into soy products. I figured I'd try the cheese and if I like it, I'll make the trek to Whole Foods (about an hour) and see if I can get some organic soy cheese. I haven't tried raw milk cheese, have you? I'm trying to get away from the salt and fat mostly not to mention the hormones and antibiotics. Organic cheese is hard to come by around here.

[Res]

I guess I tripped over you on my way out Res. About the weight. I was thinking this morning how miserable I was weighing more than I would like, clothes feeling tight and uncomfortable, not looking or feeling as good. I though to myself, "remember that when the scale numbers start to climb. This is totally my responsibility and I owe it to myself to feel good.". I need to stay further away from the crappy food that I occasionally indulge in. It needs to happen way less frequently and hopefully not at all. Living with someone who wants to get healthy is a huge help. My significant other just finished the cleanse with me and he is totally absorbed in all the raw food books that my neighbor lent us. She also lent us her very nice mandolin which I'm excited to try. I'm glad to have her around, she's a nutritionist and is pretty knowledgeable about raw food.

Exactly. I'm like a different person this morning. This is how I want to remain. I'm not a happy overweight person and knowing this will help me to watch myself. As you said, it is OUR responsibility to take care of ourselves and the bad food is just not worth the pain. I'm so glad to hear that you have support! :D

[Res]

What I've learned about soy is that 80 to 90 % of soy is Genetically Modified so I don't want to get too into soy products. I figured I'd try the cheese and if I like it, I'll make the trek to Whole Foods (about an hour) and see if I can get some organic soy cheese. I haven't tried raw milk cheese, have you? I'm trying to get away from the salt and fat mostly not to mention the hormones and antibiotics. Organic cheese is hard to come by around here.

I'm lactose intolerant but I can have organic cream, go figure. Dr Mercola said lactose intolerant people should be able to drink raw milk. I tried but still end up with huge stomach issues so I just buy it when my son's visit. I can down a lot of almond milk and love it with vanilla. :)

[jane65]

I just bought some organic Almond milk, vanilla!
I read Fit for Life years ago, like 20 years ago, and they kinda got off drinkng glasses of milk but I still put it in coffee, eat ice cream , and cheese. I just read Skinny Bitch and they got me to want to quit dairy altogether. I'm thinking of picking up a copy of the newer Fit for Life. Have you or anyone read it?

[Res]

Yes, I lived on FFL for about 5 years. I don't know why I stopped. :confused:
My son's have favorites based on their recipe like the teriyaki broccoli stalks and the shepherds pie, to name a few.

[jane65]

Just read an article on brainready.com comparing mate to coffee, green tea, and white tea. I'm definitely sticking to mate and (mostly) giving up coffee. It's loaded with antioxidants, enzymes, and nutrients and is alkaline rather than acidic. I use the chai flavored because I really don't like the grassy taste and I love the spices they use in the chai mate.
I also just got a coupon emailed to me from Boarders so I'm going to call and see if they have the newer edition of Fit for Life.
I did it for a while years ago too and then sort of fell out of it. I feel like even if I don't stick to all the way, it will give me some encouragement an ideas on how to eat better. Their theories are still with me regarding food combining and eating the easiest to digest foods first. The details are a little foggy though.

[jane65]

Yes, I lived on FFL for about 5 years. I don't know why I stopped. :confused:
My son's have favorites based on their recipe like the teriyaki broccoli stalks and the shepherds pie, to name a few.

Res, which cook book do you have of theirs?

[Res]

There are 3 and I have all 3. One of them is huge. It's like a vegetable Bible. :)

Stomach is definitely growling right about now. It's not happy with just grapefruit juice. I may experiment lightly toward dinner time.

This batch of home squeezed juice isn't the greatest. You can't always be assured of good juice. OJ has way too much sugar for me and causes mouth sores so I avoid it. I have a green juice already made and I may try that later.

I want to make sure I take it slow because I think I have food allergies which adds to bloating and weight gain. I'm supposed to bypass any grains for a month to see if it helps. That's gonna be hard because if I had a choice a loaf of bread and a lb of real irish butter is all I need to make me happy. :D

I'm looking forward to trying that bread recipe from Igor Butenko though. It sounds amazing.

[jane65]

I just got bunch of books by them used from Amazon. I got The American Vegetarian Cook Book and A New Way of Eating which are both cook books and I got Fit For Life II and Living Health. I can't wait!
I had a simple Romaine salad today w/ avocado an, almond slivers, olive oil and a little salt and it was so satisfying. I was psyched that I could get so satisfied on something so simple.
Soup tonight and maybe another salad.

[NewDirection]

Lots of replies!



Day 3, post-cleanse (Seems like over a week!!!) I had the most delicious dinner!!! I took some veggies out of my veggie soup, put them in a tortilla with some avacado and salsa (no cheese). It was so wonderful!!
Did have coffee today, though...when I got up this morning it was snowing...and I thought, if I had to drive for 2 hours in the snow THAT early in the morning, dammit, I was having coffee. Will try to keep the coffee down to cold school days...:rolleyes:

I had a REALLY hard time not having a cup of coffee this morning... I love the stuff so much! The only thing that kept me from doing it was the fact that I've been sleeping no hours a night and driving like a hundred hours a day without it - so why start now? Rest assured I'll be drinking it again soon. I have no plans to EVER stop drinking it - even while living raw. Raw + coffee + occasional glasses of wine and/or beer is a-ok for me. =]

Btw - my entire cleanse I have been craving a veggie burrito from my favorite brewery in Moab, Utah and you've just inspired me to try and make one here. (Though, I will never pull off what they do - it packed with peppers and artichoke and corn and brocolli and drooooool.)

I drink organic coffed from trader joes. Sumatra to be precise and I'll never stop so no worries. :)

I'm with you Res - nevah evah gonna stop! I drink organic as well - makes me feel better about it.

It's great to see some activity in here!! :D

SO GREAT!

Anyone: I need a really good food processor. I buy the $40 black and decker kind and then destroy it in 6 months. I'd like the get the one Ani Phyo uses in her videos but I can't tell what it is. Any ideas anyone? I'm thinking Cuisinart.

YES. Cuisinart!!! Go to Costco. Big and affordable and they have a forever and ever return policy so if you beat the crap outta it - you can take it back. Though, my Cuisinart is the second most abused appliance in my kitchen - next to my Vita Mix of course - and it still runs like a champ.

I read something that took the stress out of being a meat eater and not an all raw eater. It's on that RawEpicurious.com site (which is where I've been getting all those recipes. Such a beautiful presentation. Makes me think of Sim. :)) She said on the site that not all people eat 100% raw but if you're at least eating raw you're doing good.

Food is a big deal when my family gets together. :)

Awww Sim! I haven't heard that name in a long time! I REALLY enjoyed her! I haven't seen her around when I've been around in years - I think it was her Ireland trip time. (It was Ireland wasn't it?) Thanks for the Epicurious link. I'm excited for a new resource. I'm burned out on my uncook books.

Oookay Everyone, What's in the fridge, what's in the dehydrator? (remember this game? lol)

1. Fridge, soaked walnuts & almonds
2. Grapefruit juice galore, and a fun green juice

Dehydrator:

1. Nothing - Yet! MUHAHAHAHA
Have almost all the ingredients for the Blueberry granola, Citrus maple granola, Pizza (new recipe) and Matt's onion bread that he makes into cute little boats to hold delicous concoctions.

I'm gonna be smart this time and load up every tray probably once a week or every two weeks if stuff lasts.

Can't wait to make Ani's stuffed pepper with black pepper cheese.

Your Turn!

I want to make everything in Ani's book - I've been taking it to work with me the last couple weeks (along with Amsdens & a Boutenko) and I want to make it ALL. NOW.

Fridge - 10,000 lbs of veggies waiting to turn into veggie soup tomorrow! The fam is trying to convince me to make it tonight - no chance - I make it tonight I'll be eating it tonight! ha ha.

Dehydrator - nada at the moment - but first off will be Amsdens onion bread I think - btw - where are you finding onion bread boats stuffed with goodness? I've never seen that!

There are 3 and I have all 3. One of them is huge. It's like a vegetable Bible. :)

Stomach is definitely growling right about now. It's not happy with just grapefruit juice. I may experiment lightly toward dinner time.

This batch of home squeezed juice isn't the greatest. You can't always be assured of good juice. OJ has way too much sugar for me and causes mouth sores so I avoid it. I have a green juice already made and I may try that later.

I want to make sure I take it slow because I think I have food allergies which adds to bloating and weight gain. I'm supposed to bypass any grains for a month to see if it helps. That's gonna be hard because if I had a choice a loaf of bread and a lb of real irish butter is all I need to make me happy. :D

I'm looking forward to trying that bread recipe from Igor Butenko though. It sounds amazing.

Which Igor bread recipe? I am wondering if I have it?

I HATED my oj this morning. Had to choke it down. I made some tangelo juice and that was WAY better - but I watered it down. Still no grapefruits - no store time yet. Glad I am not alone in that...
Also in the grumbling tummy thing. My body wants nothing to do with this. I am SO tempted to make a LA because I feel super calorie deficient!

I almost stopped for a big bag of carrots to juice on the way home - what do you think about using other juices?? I have never felt strongly that o.j. is the end all (or the grapefruit alternative) but never challenged it because I'm not a doctor nor a scientist nor the creator of the MC - but I think I am ready to challenge it.

[NewDirection]

I take it all back... I am a happy juice drinker!

2 tangelos, 6 ounces water, 1 oz lemon - THIS I can drink!!

No it isn't pure orange juice - but I can't handle another sip - THIS combo however - holy goodness -
It made about 16 ounces of juice and it was a struggle to only drink 8 ounces and put the other 8 ounces in the fridge!

nom nom nom nom... :D

[Res]

Good Morning,

Beginning Day 2 post cleanse: Woke up this morning with a stomach ache. Must be due to digesting all of that nothing from yesterday.:o I'm down another half pound. I really was incredibly hungry yesterday and the juice just wasn't gettin it. I drank my mild green juice towards the evening and that didn't get it either. I'm always voracious after the cleanse but this time I'm vowing to keep at the forefront of my mind the REASON I did a 30 day cleanse in the first place. lol

I also decided that as I reaquaint myself with food that if I'm gonna binge I'll binge on raw food. Raspberry Fudge cake anyone? I'm making that next week when family comes down.

Regardless of stomach pains this morning, I gave myself a huge pat on the back today and you all should as well. How many people succeed this cleanse vs crumble and stop? It's empowering to go past 10 days and survive. lol I feel like I climbed the highest mountain. I'm just plain elated today. :)

Now, on to reading your posts.

[Res]

I just got bunch of books by them used from Amazon. I got The American Vegetarian Cook Book and A New Way of Eating which are both cook books and I got Fit For Life II and Living Health. I can't wait!
I had a simple Romaine salad today w/ avocado an, almond slivers, olive oil and a little salt and it was so satisfying. I was psyched that I could get so satisfied on something so simple.
Soup tonight and maybe another salad.

Jane I know!! Isn't it crazy? Because of the Master Cleanse my favorite salad dressing is Olive oil and lemon. Fini! About now dark leafy green is calling to me. I have a big batch of soup that I'm going to try today. And 5 trays of onion bread are in the dehydrator.

Kathy, I'm making Matt's onion bread and the entire house smells divine, but have you even put like granola or anything in your dehydrator with matt's bread? I'm worried the granola will taste like onions but I want to redeem the other 4 trays and not waste electricity. Thoughts?

[Res]

ND, here's a lot of blah, blah, blah. lol

I have to keep in mind that we're really not alone nor in a private room here. heehee
For half of my cleanses I followed it to the T. But then I couldn't handle the week long mouth sores from the Oj so I started breaking my cleanses with raw organic blueberries, rasp, blackberries. It actually worked well. Survival, ya know? I don't advocate it because it's not how Peter and Burroughs say to break the cleanse and I don't want to get fired. ;) This time however it was just juice, grapefruit juice and then green juice in the evening.

Oh, I'm having coffee right now. ahahaha. *sigh* Your coffee comment cracked me up! "I'm with you Res - nevah evah gonna stop! I drink organic as well - makes me feel better about it."

You're veggie burrito sounds divine. I'll bet you really can make it.

Bread boats:
If you have Matt Amsdens book it's on page 146. I have those boats in my dehydrator at the moment. Here's a description because I couldn't find the recipe online:

Spinach & Mushroom Quiche
A fresh baby spinach, Portobello mushroom and pine nut filling served on a crust of our famous Onion Bread.

How funny I was turned to the page and the picture is bigger than life and I almost drooled. hahaha

OK, Cuisinart. Cool.

Sim went to raw chef school. She hoped to open her own Bistro. I sure wish she'd check in but I'll bet she's super busy. I may check and see if I have her email address.

Kathy, didn't we all swap email addresses? I just cleaned out 5000 emails dating back to 2005 so I don't think I have it. Do you by any chance?


HAHAHAHAHA, 10,000 vegetables. Seriously. My fridge went from "I could crawl in there empty" to now my hand barely fits. Most of it is stuff I have to grate, juice, cube, process, and chop, chop, chop.

I just noticed you mentioned Amsden so you have his book?

Igor's bread is posted in the Lemonhead Recipe box.

Regarding challenging the cleanse: I think if Burroughs was here today he would agree with some simple substitutions. Such as Agave nectar which is not included in his book but is a healthy alternative for those who can't do maple or stand the taste of it. I believe everyone should do the cleanse to the T at least a few times, but the problem with advocating changes to the cleanse could end up extreme like other MC boards who really are not MC at all and tell you to have soup and veggies while on the cleanse. DUH. Hence it is no longer the master cleanse but coming OFF the cleanse. burrough just wants to make sure people don't go into gastric insanity and pain so he eases you off the cleanse. I know people who went right back to eating...I mean like creme bruleee. You pay for that kind of mistake and since we love the people here we want them to use their heads. Know what I mean Vern?

What you did with the tangelo's is great and I concur. :D

[Res]

Regarding the Onion Bread boats, it started out as a pain in the rear to make. It's gooey and messy but I was determined. I had decided earlier that when I made the bread itself I wasn't going to smear it flat like I usually do. I wanted little bread rounds without trying to cut them out after the bread was done and scoring never works for me it always breaks. I needed a little circle or something and adverently came up with using one of the rings from a wide mouth canning jar. So I scooped the mixture out of the bowl and filled the lid, packed it down as best as possible and then removed it and did it again and again. I put the rounds close together so that I could get as many as possible on the tray. EUREKA! I'm going to have my little sandwich breads ready to go with no toil over trying to bread them into bread sized pieces while only breaking them to shreds as it usually happens.

I also make the boats prior to figuring out the lid thing and I think it would have worked to pile more batter in the lid, remove it and THEN form the bread into a bowl which is really a test of patience (and I have none) but I started to feel very womanly as I gave into it. lol And I'm happy so far. I want to take a peek but one son came over mid night and is sleeping soundly in the room next to the dehydrator and I don't want to wake him...hmmm a flashlight? Yeah, a flashlight. Muhahahahahah

[mtmouse]

That's a neat idea! I'll keep it in mind, though I haven't made onion bread in quite a while. What will you put in them?

Those wide-mouthed canning lids come in handy. For several years now I've been using them to make poached eggs. I just put water in a fry pan, then put the lids in and bring to a boil, meanwhile cracking each egg into its own separate bowl (to make sure the yolk doesn't break). Then when the water is ready I slide each egg into one of the canning lids, cover the pan, and cook until they're done. I then lift them out with a spatula, grab the lid with a finger, and put the egg on the plate.

I did that when a guest was here last summer and she was all excited because not only was it quick and easy, but it used no extra fat and the egg didn't have a poaching dish to otherwise stick to. That hadn't been my intention (I'm just lazy), but it's true! :)

Anyway, that of course has nothing to do with raw. But I'm just saying ...

[Res]

That's a neat idea! I'll keep it in mind, though I haven't made onion bread in quite a while. What will you put in them?

Those wide-mouthed canning lids come in handy. For several years now I've been using them to make poached eggs. I just put water in a fry pan, then put the lids in and bring to a boil, meanwhile cracking each egg into its own separate bowl (to make sure the yolk doesn't break). Then when the water is ready I slide each egg into one of the canning lids, cover the pan, and cook until they're done. I then lift them out with a spatula, grab the lid with a finger, and put the egg on the plate.

I did that when a guest was here last summer and she was all excited because not only was it quick and easy, but it used no extra fat and the egg didn't have a poaching dish to otherwise stick to. That hadn't been my intention (I'm just lazy), but it's true! :)

Anyway, that of course has nothing to do with raw. But I'm just saying ...

Open Amsdens book and go to page 144-146. You must have missed the post above that indicated the "Spinach and Cheese Quiche" filling. Another has portabella mushrooms, spinach and the filling looks like cheesy goodness in one and dark yum filling in the other. I can only imagine what this tastes like.

BUT, you know how you can buy bread bowls with chili or soup etc? Can you imagine making a raw chili and piling it in? I can! Then making a macadamia nut cheese to put on top with raw sour cream? I can't exactly remember the sour cream recipe but I'll find it. The possibilities are endless!

[Res]

I think I want to do the Julie & Julia thing and just start at the beginning and make every recipe in the book. Then move on to the next book. Think of what's her faces book! Oh yeah Alissa Cohen! I haven't even pulled that one down from the shelf.

Ani's dessert book is taking its sweet time, no pun intended. Cornbleets arrive a week ago. It figures the one I'm impatiently waiting for won't get here until Feb 17th...ugh.

[mtmouse]

Does Cornbleet's look good too?

[Res]

Does Cornbleet's look good too?

Yes it does. I have read through the entire thing and on the first day I got it! Talk about driving myself nuts. :)

She still has the best Marinara sauce that I've tried so far and her Tuna is still my favorite. BUT, I have Everday Raw by Matthew Kenney and his tuna has a twist so I'm anxious to try it. My middle soh LOVES raw food and everything I've made but I have to make 8x the recipe when I make tuna because he devours it. I remember the first time I gave 2 of my son's the tuna and they couldn't tell the difference, just the texture seemed "off" to them and the looks on their faces when I told them what it really was. Priceless.8)

[Res]

OH my gosh, totally off topic but I can't resist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8

[NewDirection]

Oh Master Cleanse... how do I love thee - let me count the ways...

No counting. Just stating - when 3 oz of black coffee (that I am DEFINATELY NOT drinking :D) makes me feel like I am capable of running back home to New York from out west were I currently reside - without breaking a sweat... Oh man. I love the Master Cleanse!

[Res]

Igor's bread recipe is fermenting. It's on it's last 30 min.

I just finished my 2nd salad, mmmm and I'm done for the day. It was nice to crunch something. Tomorrow is Mexican food day. :) I didn't realize that in the back of Matt's book were menu ideas. Very convenient.

I hope you're all doing well. Kinda quiet in here. Don't make me come over there! :p

[jane65]

Igor's bread recipe is fermenting. It's on it's last 30 min.

I just finished my 2nd salad, mmmm and I'm done for the day. It was nice to crunch something. Tomorrow is Mexican food day. :) I didn't realize that in the back of Matt's book were menu ideas. Very convenient.

I hope you're all doing well. Kinda quiet in here. Don't make me come over there! :p

Ha ha! I've had a busy day today but I've snuck in a couple of times.
Went to the store and got a bunch of healthy snacks. I over-snacked a little today, it was all healthy but I still over did it and actually felt stuffed for the first time in over a month. It was interesting to feel that way and notice how different it felt when before it was more normal for me to do that.

Res, I just read an article by Dr. Mercola explaining why soy is bad for the thyroid and coconut oil is good, so I'm gonna stay away from soy and try to incorporate cocnut oil in my diet. Also in the article, he talks about people with gluten intolerance being misdiagnosed with Hashimoto's Disease because the antbodies are so similar that they get mistaken on lab results. He says he estimates that 30% of the people are misdiagnosed. Hashimoto's is a form of hypothyroid where the thyroid is attacking itself. That's what I was diagnosed as having.

It's all such a learning journey. Thanks God for the internet!:)

[NewDirection]

ND, here's a lot of blah, blah, blah. lol

I love a lot of blah, blah, blah. I was completely ill equipped to reply to it yesterday though ha ha. I swear - add a little digestion to the mix and my brain stops functioning!

I have to keep in mind that we're really not alone nor in a private room here. heehee

Psssssssssh. May as well be - it's virtually silent in here!


For half of my cleanses I followed it to the T. But then I couldn't handle the week long mouth sores from the Oj so I started breaking my cleanses with raw organic blueberries, rasp, blackberries. It actually worked well. Survival, ya know? I don't advocate it because it's not how Peter and Burroughs say to break the cleanse and I don't want to get fired. ;) This time however it was just juice, grapefruit juice and then green juice in the evening.

Glad to hear this. I really think people should follow everything to the letter a few times to learn how your body responds to cleansing & transitioning. Buuuuuuuut - I just feel like some things can be played with without causing trauma. I ate a tangelo at my shoot last night because it was the only way I could eat there. (Not really logical to try and pack and eat soup.) My tummy was a little growly about it but it turned out fine. Today I'll have soup at about noon and come hell or high water I am having a few slices of avocado tonight. (Which will turn into eating at least half of it I bet.) I don't CARE if I pay - I have 5 ripe MASSIVE avocados that I didn't expect to ripen as fast as they did - and I am NOT letting my favorite food on the planet go to waste - and my family is burning out on all the guac I am making lol.

Oh, I'm having coffee right now. ahahaha. *sigh* Your coffee comment cracked me up! "I'm with you Res - nevah evah gonna stop! I drink organic as well - makes me feel better about it."

I had a small amount of coffee last night and I was LIT all night. I am really grateful for it too because last night was the craziest event I've ever photographed!

You're veggie burrito sounds divine. I'll bet you really can make it.

I am REALLY toying with the idea of taking the boys to Moab for Valentines day and hiking with the dogs for the day and hitting the brewery before we come home. Two flaws in this plan - don't really think I should drink beer for awhile (though I want one baaaad) - and I also want to be pretty much raw the next 30 days. My roasted veggie burrito (and chili they serve it with) are vegan - but definately NOT raw. ONE meal won't end me... right? lol. :rolleyes:

Bread boats:
If you have Matt Amsdens book it's on page 146. I have those boats in my dehydrator at the moment. Here's a description because I couldn't find the recipe online:

Spinach & Mushroom Quiche
A fresh baby spinach, Portobello mushroom and pine nut filling served on a crust of our famous Onion Bread.

I do have Amsdens book - but I've never heard of the boats - did you make it up? I still can't picture the end result - you should post a picture somewhere online so I can catch your vision. Either way - stuffed boats (especially full of raw chili... mmmm...) sound divine.

How funny I was turned to the page and the picture is bigger than life and I almost drooled. hahaha

OK, Cuisinart. Cool.

Yes. Cuisinart. Doooooo it. You won't regret it promise. I really want to start making fresh bread for the boys, and don't know if I want to attempt the dough out of the Cuisinart or my Vita Mix. Do you have any thoughts on this?

Sim went to raw chef school. She hoped to open her own Bistro. I sure wish she'd check in but I'll bet she's super busy. I may check and see if I have her email address.

You should definately try and find her email address! That would be so exciting to get an update from her! I do remember now talk of raw chef school. So rad.

HAHAHAHAHA, 10,000 vegetables. Seriously. My fridge went from "I could crawl in there empty" to now my hand barely fits. Most of it is stuff I have to grate, juice, cube, process, and chop, chop, chop.

My fridge is seriously a jungle! I THOUGHT I bought a lot of veggies for the soup, well I made and entire STOCK POT of soup yesterday including using a bunch of veggies to make the stock the night before - and I still have no room in there! Still packed with veggies. I want my system to hurry and hearty up so I can eat some of my favorite things - like cabbage and avocado salad with my favorite oil/lemon/garlic/nutritional yeast dressing.... oh man. No more talk like that! Gonna get me into trouble lol.

I just noticed you mentioned Amsden so you have his book?

Indeed! I have Rawvelution, Ani Phyo's and the Boutenko kids book. I have lots of books about raw that have recipes - but those are the only dedicated uncook books I own. I am dying to try a toona - for some reason I have NEVER made one - but you talking about your son not even realizing they weren't eating fish excited me even more for it! I LOVE tuna fish - but feeling pretty strong about staying vegan all year (not 100% raw all the time, it's not practical for my lifestyle at ALL - and too expensive to cook for the kids and make myself something different every night.) so I need to find a toona I can love.

Igor's bread is posted in the Lemonhead Recipe box.

Found it - still wondering if I have a book that has it. I have all sorts of Boutenko books.

Regarding challenging the cleanse: I think if Burroughs was here today he would agree with some simple substitutions. Such as Agave nectar which is not included in his book but is a healthy alternative for those who can't do maple or stand the taste of it. I believe everyone should do the cleanse to the T at least a few times, but the problem with advocating changes to the cleanse could end up extreme like other MC boards who really are not MC at all and tell you to have soup and veggies while on the cleanse. DUH. Hence it is no longer the master cleanse but coming OFF the cleanse. burrough just wants to make sure people don't go into gastric insanity and pain so he eases you off the cleanse. I know people who went right back to eating...I mean like creme bruleee. You pay for that kind of mistake and since we love the people here we want them to use their heads. Know what I mean Vern?

Indeed I do, Vern. That is exactly how I feel about it. I think the cleanse is nearly perfect, and I think all the super strict rules are important - especially for first time cleansers (give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile!) but I agree that were we able to consult him he'd probably be okay with some of the simple modifications some of the vets make.

What you did with the tangelo's is great and I concur. :D

It's SO damn tasty I plan on making it every time tangelos are in season - forever. I LOVE it and had to space my expensive tangelos out to savor it longer. I'll make my last one today. Mmmmm. Tangelo cocktail... :D

Regarding the Onion Bread boats, it started out as a pain in the rear to make. It's gooey and messy but I was determined. I had decided earlier that when I made the bread itself I wasn't going to smear it flat like I usually do. I wanted little bread rounds without trying to cut them out after the bread was done and scoring never works for me it always breaks. I needed a little circle or something and adverently came up with using one of the rings from a wide mouth canning jar. So I scooped the mixture out of the bowl and filled the lid, packed it down as best as possible and then removed it and did it again and again. I put the rounds close together so that I could get as many as possible on the tray. EUREKA! I'm going to have my little sandwich breads ready to go with no toil over trying to bread them into bread sized pieces while only breaking them to shreds as it usually happens.

I also make the boats prior to figuring out the lid thing and I think it would have worked to pile more batter in the lid, remove it and THEN form the bread into a bowl which is really a test of patience (and I have none) but I started to feel very womanly as I gave into it. lol And I'm happy so far. I want to take a peek but one son came over mid night and is sleeping soundly in the room next to the dehydrator and I don't want to wake him...hmmm a flashlight? Yeah, a flashlight. Muhahahahahah

How did they turn out? I can't wait to try this! I know I'm probably going to botch it - but I'm okay with that. That's the best thing about raw foods - even when you TOTALLY screw them up - generally speaking - it's still edible and not a complete waste. Mmmmm. Edible. (Are you picking up the theme that I am REALLY ready to eat?)

OH my gosh, totally off topic but I can't resist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8

Saw this last fall and was really ashamed of myself that I watched it probably 27 times in a week - I avoid YouTube silly videos... but I could NOT resist this one!! My sons both love this video - so I got to blame a lot of my views on them. :rolleyes:

[NewDirection]

So. Day (?) post cleanse. I think day 3... but who knows really. :)

I'm feeling great. I've lost a little bit of weight since first juice day which is kinda nice - especially given the fact that I ate WAY too much soup yesterday.

I had a huge exciting update that I wanted to post - then I used up all my posting time marathon posting to Res so I'll come back later and tell you about yesterday.

Today I've got planned a half grapefruit for breakfast, a bowl (or two - hey - small bowls cut me some slack lol) of my soup for lunch and for dinner I'm thinking I'm going to have a simple green salad with cukes, avocado, red onion and a small amount of a nutritional yeast dressing I make - or possibly just a few sprays of Braggs to make it even more simple. I might skip the salad and just eat some avocado & cukes lol. We'll see.

I'll be back later kids. Have a good day.



-ND

[NewDirection]

I don't know who forgot to send me the memo that dehydtrated peach is the BEST thing to ever happen to the world of sans moisture fruit - but you have some 'splainin to do Lucy!!!

Luckily I measured out 1/4 cup of dried fruit and put it in a baggie so I can't over do it. I used to think dried mango held my heart - mango you're outta here! Peach is my new main squeeze.

On that note - already eaten today not planned is (will be once it's gone) 1/4 cup dried fruit and 1/2 cup cucumber.

If you are wondering about the measurements - it's not a counting calorie thing or anything like that - it's accountability. I have had more than one post cleanse occasion in the past where suddenly I snap out of it and I don't even know what I've eaten - just that I feel like crap. Taste of this, bite of that - little bit here and there. If I measure it out - I am taking that extra 30 seconds to REALLY pay attention to what I'm about to put in my mouth - and it also makes it stick in my brain a bit more.

Hope everyone is doing marvy.

[Res]

This is a quickie as I prepare for the SuperBowl, BUT, I was seriously excited about the raw taco meat and raw fake cheese and fake sour cream for the tostado in Matt's book and finally made it and it looked adorable but I hated every bite. You know that dumb thing you do where you eat another one hoping it will be better? Well they're only about 2 inches in diameter but halfway through the 2nd one I threw in the towel. Blech....then I thought ok, I'll grab two squares of Igors bread and put a tomato, avocado and red onion on this teeny sandwich and guess what? Yep, it tasted like crap.

Ok, so matt's onion bread is good, always will be. Igor's not so good and I had high hopes. Now I'm disallusioned - or maybe that's disappointed. I don't know.

Anyway, I will continue to strive to eat as close to the earth as is possible - no processed anything but this next weeked we're roasting free range meats and a variety. We're also having mead (not sure if I'm going to imbibed) and veggies. Similair to Celtic eating. Until then I'm sticking with salads and staying away from the fake cheese and sour cream, which wasn't so bad but tasted dead. I don't know if that makes sense but I end my tirade full and unsatistifed. Luckily I get to try again tomorrow or maybe later (just salad).

Fini!

[mtmouse]

Oh, poor thing, I'm so sorry! Sometimes it's like that--especially when we've been craving on the cleanse and want those first bites to be perfect--but you did well to catch yourself as early as you did.

But our tastes do change. To tell you the truth, I don't even like Matt's onion bread all that much and don't make it so often any more. But when I took it to a potluck a while back everyone else raved about it.

{{{{{{{{ HUGS }}}}}}}}}

Enjoy the game!

[NewDirection]

Res - Did you say Cornbleet was your favorite mock tuna? I just watched a video of it and its only nuts, celery, onion and parsley - she doesn't even use and dulse flakes or the like.

Doesn't it just taste like - nuts?

Who's all have you tried?

I'm so poor I am not feeling very experimental - but I really need to find some raw portable satisfying meals I can take to shoots with me so I don't live on avocado, apples, oranges, grapefruit and tahini like I did a few years ago during this season.

[mtmouse]

For my part, I've never liked Cornbleet's mock tuna.

Toona rules! :)

[Tanyazl1]

What a beautiful day!

Res...sorry to hear about the bread...what a bummer. I know how you feel..I hate to have may heart set on the raw dish and it doesn't rise to my expectations. This time I had the same experience with Ani's black sesame sunflower bread. Although, it tasted pretty good toasted. I was going to try Igor's bread but I'm not too sure now. :(

On a brighter note...For our super bowl party for the two of us...:p

I made Matthew Kenney's: chili, guacamole with pineapple (I didn't have a mango), tortilla chips, & salsa fresca, with toffuti sour cream since I didn't have enough raw cashews to make my own. Yummmmmy :p

I made Cornbleet's almond cookies, too! double yum!




Have great week!

[Res]

Aww thanks everyone. Yeah Kathy, tastes do change and to be honest I'm not real keen on the flavor of flax. I wish there was a way to disguise it. Igor's bread is going the way of bird food.

I think it was a bit too early for "cheez and sour kreme" which is all nuts. Very heavy and takes a lot of digestion. On their own they tasted good but really rich and again, I think it's just too soon.

A few years ago I ordered Matt's expensive raw food box. I think he really overdoes it with the nama shoyu big time. I only liked one thing out of that box. Everything else was too salty. I even cut it down when making his recipes including the onion bread.

I do love cornbleets tuna. I don't like toona because it has too many carrots for me. Although she doesn't use dulse flakes, I overdo it with the dill and it tastes just like tuna to me. It's simpler. You know the no brainer thing which I like a LOT. :)

I had a notion to go with raw chili and wish I would've listened to myself. I also adore Cornbleets Marinara sauce over zucchini noodles. I can eat way too many of those noodles but the good thing is it's not pasta ya know?

I'm still feeling really good. Just disallusioned but not giving up.

The Blueberry granola in "Everyday Raw" is killer. I have to make a batch, oh and also the Cranberry scones. I tend to lean towards those types of raw food but need to stay focused on the raw veggies especially because it's way too easy to grab a bowl of granola with almond milk and forsake the chop chop choppping which is more necessary I believe.

Jack lalanne eats something like 12 or 14 different vegetables every day. He makes sure he downs them before bed. He's onto something. :)

I'm still finishing up my veggie soup. Don't want to waste it but I'm thinking spaghetti tonight. :)