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Wanbli
February 1st, 2006, 03:56 PM
Well for the first 6 days of my cleanse, I was pretty much cutting the lemon in half and juicing all of it in my juicer- rind, pulp, seeds, etc.

Today I used "just the juice"

There is a big difference in one major thing.

The lemon oil from the peel acts as a carrying agent for the cayenne pepper and coats your mouth and throat ALOT more than just the juice.

There is also a tremendous bitter aftertaste with the whole lemon

I assume there are powerful healing and cleansing properties in the whole of the fruit- I read in the MC book about reduction in bleeding, etc. - but if you look at the potency of citrus seed extract it is highly active against protozoa, bacteria, yeast and some viruses, it has been used for quite some time in the treatment of parasitic infections.

So my question is- what do you do and which is best ?

FastBoySlow
February 5th, 2006, 07:31 AM
I am interested in this also.

I decided to juice whole lemons yesterday (Day 5), instead of just squeezing the juice.

It is certainly a lot more bitter, but goes further.

Guest
February 16th, 2006, 03:24 PM
I have a vita-mix and I juice the whole lemon, minus the peel.

Not sure which is the best way, but would be interested in knowing also.

FastBoySlow
February 16th, 2006, 03:48 PM
I did it both ways, but went back to using just the juice,as I found juicing the whole lemon just to bitter for me.

Guest
February 21st, 2006, 09:30 AM
Using the whole Lemon is not a good idea. This is a type of fast which basically means that only the liquid processing parts of the body will be used.

The reason that a fast get's "Easier" after/around the 3rd day is the stomach starts to move into a type of hybernation mode and sort of shuts down its processing. Any morsel of solid food will keep this from happening or turn it back on if it was already down. This causes excess acids and hunger pains, etc..

If you research Juice Fasts on the net, you will find that most of them highly recommend straining the juice so no pulp whatsoever can get thru for this reason.

I am on day 2 of my 3rd time doing the cleanse. It is very effective if done properly and can really make a change in your health.

Hope this helps,

JC

innerpilot
February 24th, 2006, 12:46 AM
I could be mistaken, I only read Burroughs' book twice, but I think he wrote something to the effect that if you want a little more power to the cleansing you can add some pulp, inner peel and a little of the peel itself (in addition to the ounce of juice). I've always been taught that one of the most beneficial parts of citrus is the white lining of the peel. I tried it for one day and had a very good experience.

sciniq
March 1st, 2006, 07:44 PM
So what's the consensus on drinking the pulp? They say that it gives an extra boost to the detox process, but I thought we weren't supposed to digest any solids. The pulp, though not super solid is still a solid and makes your body have to work in order to break it down. What're people doing? Drinking pulp or no pulp?

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innerpilot
March 2nd, 2006, 01:43 AM
You'll have to look it up in Burrough's book. I lent my copy to a friend. It's in there. Something about every now and then one can use a little of the pulp and a little of the peel. I finished my cleanse, but still drink the drink each day because I like it and I put the pulp in all the time now. But as far as the minimum 10 day cleanse, you better check the book to make sure.

innerpilot
March 3rd, 2006, 12:07 AM
I just got my copy back and checked. It's on page 19 in Burrough's book. At the very top.

"Blend a part of the lemon skin and pulp with the lemonade in a blender for further cleansing and laxative effect."

He cautions not to use the peel of non, organic lemons.

mishmosh
March 5th, 2006, 09:59 PM
i use the whole lemon minus the peel in my vitamix which pulverizes thaat baby down to nothing. i did it following what i read in burrough's book which was just quoted. the last mc i did was for 24 days. i used the whole lemon the whole time and never experienced hunger pains or anything.

Kickstart_To_Health
February 1st, 2007, 10:10 PM
I swallowed a lemon seed by accident, will that hurt anything :eek: :) ?

taxman
February 2nd, 2007, 07:03 PM
I also have a Vita-Mix and while I'd been peeling the lemons the first 6 days, today I thoroughly washed the lemons (organic, of course) and mixed them without peeling first. The juice has a more bitter flavor, as I can definitely tatste the lemon peel. There is a bit of oil in the drink as the peel contains oil. The color of the juice is lighter, closer to a dark carrot juice (I use 1/2 teaspoon cayenne per 8 oz. drink).

thesavage
February 2nd, 2007, 10:12 PM
I juice my lemons whole all the time. I like the more astringent flavor. And I like putting the detox on superpower.

kickstart - I'm pretty sure your seed will come out whole in the swf tomorrow. Don't worry about it.

locolady
February 28th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Okay, after reading this thread, I got brave and tried putting a whole (organic) lemon in my blender - ack! I could hardly get the lemonade down.

I LOVE the pulp, though. I read that in Burrough's book also, and I've been putting all I can in my lemonades. Also, I've been "cheating" a little here & there by munching on *very* small pieces of lemon rind & the white part. It's actually pretty yummy. So, why did it taste so bad all blended up? Too much of a good thing, I guess.

blknitenmd
March 6th, 2007, 01:05 PM
i actually blended up a lemon after i had squeezed the juice out added a feww tablespoons to my quart of lemonade...this morning after my swf i notice more gook comming out than normal..so i think the extra skin and pulp does do something

keropi
March 7th, 2007, 01:52 PM
Last time I did the MC I used the lemon peel for the last 8 days. What I did was juice all the lemons that I needed, and then in a blender put the lemon juice and 2 lemon peels (got rid of all the lemon seeds as they are very bitter). Blend it then strained it and ended up with just liquid.
The flavor changed and it was nice, not too bitter or anything. I notticed a dramatic increase in my detox symptoms.
If you want to add the lemon peel it will definately help your detox, just don't add too many lemon/lime peels because it will be very very difficult to drink.

strata
March 10th, 2007, 09:11 AM
I have a vita mix as well and think I would like to do the whole lemon, less the skin.
The big question I have is how much eliminating is done during the day and how "ahhhhh" I have to go now is it? I am a hair stylist, on my feet all day want to start my tea Sunday night and start the full program Monday (my day off).

Any advice would be great, sorry if I haven't found the right thread.

Thanks!

TallTravel
March 27th, 2007, 02:16 PM
I spent years with a Champion juicer, and even longer with a VITA MIX, and everything I read over those times said that citrus skin is indigestible to the human being. The white part is said, by the same people, to have huge value to us.

So for me, it would take a huge amount of contrary evidence to get me to eat the skin of a lemon, lime, orange, or grapefruit. All this is separate and distinct from the stuff the growers are putting on the skin of the citrus if it is not organic.

My view is don't do it.

islareina
November 1st, 2007, 03:45 AM
Hello all, the name of this thread suggests juicing the lemon but it seems that the concerns in this thread are about blending whole lemons. Does anyone have information on actually juicing whole lemons? I am about to start my first cleanse in a couple days and I have a GreenStar juicer. It takes the whole fruit and extracts the juice from the entire fruit, separating pulp and other solids from the juice. Does anyone else have this type of juicer? It would be a lot easier to juice the whole fruit rather than peeling lemons every day, but how is the taste?

Rawbie
December 4th, 2007, 11:46 AM
Hey everybody!

I am starting my third MC (1st - 10 and 2nd - 14) and hoping to last 21 days. Please note that I am going to do a bit differently since I have a Vita-Mix at the present time. So instead of squeezing lemons, I am going to blend a whole lemon minus outer skin (peel) and seeds for each 16 oz (2 cups) of distilled water. I think Stanley allows this approach as there is a mention about a blender for lemons in his book. Of course, I am still including Grade B maple syrup and cayenne pepper in all of my lemonades.

Is there anyone using the approach of blending lemon during the entire duration of MC?

Thanks!

Rawbie
December 4th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Just want to mention one more thing about blending lemon -- after blending lemon in my Vita-Mix, I use the strainer to remove any remaining pulp so that my lemonade has nothing, but all liquid. Any problem with that?

mtmouse
December 4th, 2007, 01:52 PM
Rawbie,

Shouldn't be a problem with that. You can even include some or all of the pulp if you wish, though Burroughs does say that tends to increase the intensity of the detox, so dial back in that case.

SWF2go
January 20th, 2008, 05:55 PM
I have a VitaMixer and a juicer. They are two different things. The mixer will mush up the pulp, but it's still pulp. The juicer just gets the juice out. If the goal is to not introduce solids into the digestive system it would seem logical the juicer would be better.

But the questions were, IS IT BETTER TO JUICE (not blend) THE WHOLE LEMON? WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS?

I think it's certainly a good question. Who has JUICED out there and what difference have you found in the results of your cleanse? (Not just the taste, but the results)

Thanks

htmetz
February 7th, 2008, 11:02 AM
Just started MC3 doing the lemons minus the yellow skin in my VitaMix. I enjoyed it but am concerned about having the fiber in the drink. Today I did the lemons with the white part in my twin augur (Tri-Strar) juicer and then filtered it as well. I'll let you know if I observe a difference in the effect.

Bobby
February 7th, 2008, 01:02 PM
:)
As to juicing vs VitaMix
the Juicing allows for full enzyme impact. The VitaMix blends the whole fruit; a good option for normal healthy eating but not for the purposes of this cleanse.

Dylbie
February 7th, 2008, 03:35 PM
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but I am wondering if it is ok to use Myers lemons?
If you have never heard of them, they look like a lemon but when you cut them, almost have a tangerine smell. I love using them for cooking. They taste like a lemon but without the bitterness.
You could almost eat it like an orange because it does not make your mouth pucker.
It would be perfect for making lemonade, but I am still wondering if they have a different nutritional makeup than regular lemons.

Bobby
February 8th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Dear Dilbie;

Hi, about the meyer lemons...I read in one of the other posts that you can use them. However, I don't know what that answer was based on. If meyer lemons are not hybrids, they should be fine to use, but I would make sure before using them. It a pretty long explanation but when fruits are cross-bred, it depends on how this is done as to whethter they maintain their original nutritional value. Much is lost when cross breeding is done outside of natural cross-pollination.

Kermittreefrog
February 11th, 2008, 09:44 PM
yeah, I was wondering about the Meyers lemons too. If anybody knows the awnser and it comes from a good source, please let me know, because I would really love to go that route once in awhile. Plus the whole peel can be used and is not bitter.

Res
February 12th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Meyer lemons are a cross between a lemon and tangerine. I've done a few cleanses using meyers with the same great results as using other lemons. They are a bit sweeter and I prefer them. :)

Love,
~Res

tams68
February 21st, 2008, 09:28 PM
I did read that in the book also that you can include pulp and peel...one of the things that drives me crazy about this is the different opinions. Hard to know what is the right way to do this. So which is it???

mtmouse
February 22nd, 2008, 03:16 AM
Well, when there are varying opinions, I guess you can try all and decide for yourself!

If you do include the peel, be sure you use organic lemons only.

G-9
March 2nd, 2008, 09:23 PM
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but I am wondering if it is ok to use Myers lemons?


I am just getting ready to do my first flush and have read 3 books about it so I can be as ready as possible for what's ahead. In "The Complete Master Cleanse: A Step-by-Step Guide to Maximizing the Benefits of The Lemonade Diet", by Tom Woloshyn, page 77, I read, "Do not use Meyer lemons for the Master Cleanse. While these are delicious in baked goods, they are unsuitable for the cleanse because they are less acidic and have slightly different properties. Meyer lemons are considered a cross between a true lemon and a mandarin orange." :)

I also have a Vita Mix and a friend and I wanted to try the "Lemonade" just to see what it was going to taste like. I blended up the whole fruit, less the peel, and it was rather thick. For those who have done this, was this your experience as well? I just got a bag of organic lemons at the store but will be getting a case of them through an organic produce buying club I am in, so I thought I would try this again to see if some different lemons produced a 'jucier' result in the Vita Mix.

CleansingMaMa
March 25th, 2008, 11:28 AM
Hi - i went to the whole foods store yesterday and i found this. Organic lemon juice, not from concentrate the ingrediants: organic lemon juice. There is nothing else in it, can i use this??? I'm just soo busy i just dont have time to juice lemons, this would be so much easier. It says 2 tblsp = one medium lemon.

mtmouse
March 25th, 2008, 01:05 PM
Hi - i went to the whole foods store yesterday and i found this. Organic lemon juice, not from concentrate the ingrediants: organic lemon juice. There is nothing else in it, can i use this??? I'm just soo busy i just dont have time to juice lemons, this would be so much easier. It says 2 tblsp = one medium lemon.

Sorry. I know it sounds great, but it isn't acceptable for the MC. It's been pasteurized, and thus means the enzymes (which are very important for the cleanse) have been destroyed.

No bottled or canned stuff on the MC.

If you are too busy, it would be better to wait for a better time to start your cleanse.

But if you buy one of the small electric citrus juicers, you'll find it takes very little time at all to make up your lemonade. And while it isn't preferable, you can make up a day's supply at once if you choose (be sure to refrigerate it until drinking it).

CleansingMaMa
March 30th, 2008, 07:23 PM
Is it ok if i dont use organic lemons? The nearest whole food store is far from me, so it would be easier to use normal lemons at the store in town. Also i have grade A maple syrup - i seriously cant find grade B!! THanks for reading!

mtmouse
March 31st, 2008, 12:43 AM
Yes, you'll be fine with nonorganic lemons. Of course, don't use any of the rind--but most don't anyway.

As for the grade B syrup, it's certainly worth continuing to check around for it even as you use your grade A. It does make a difference and shouldn't be that hard to find. Or else look for raw organic agave nectar.

jr5star
May 22nd, 2008, 03:23 PM
Thanks for posting this. I have recently purchased a Vita Mix after reading Joel Furhman's book and was juicing prior to starting the MC. I too have been juicing the entire lemon. Since I initially purchased non-organic lemons, I removed the peel, but juiced everything else (I will purchase organic lemons on my next trip). The lemons I have are medium. I used one whole lemon in 10 oz along with the other ingredients. Is this what the rest of you who juice the entire lemon do? Am I using too much lemon in doing it this way?

adl117
January 3rd, 2009, 10:26 PM
So, basically the only downside to juicing the whole lemon as oppsed to just the meat f the fruit is a bitter taste?

I am planning on starting MC in the next couple of days and I own a fantastic juicer...I'm a bit of a fanatic; i'll juice anything I can find in my veggie or fruit drawer!!

Should I go out and get a normal juice? A citrus press? Or should I just do as I was planning and get the optimal benefits of the whole lemon and just tolerate the bitterness?

Res
January 4th, 2009, 12:30 PM
The choice is really yours. Try it both ways and see what works best for you.

alex1angel
January 4th, 2009, 02:56 PM
I'm on the second day of MC #3. On the first cleanse I juiced the whole lemon for the first 3 day since a friend had a juicer. I did experience a lot of detoxing, but then again, it was my first detox.
The second cleanse, 14 days, I only used a citrus juicer and didn't notice a difference.
This third time I'm only using the juice and I'm not really having BMs so I will try to use my friend's machine to juice the whole lemon. I also have not experience much detoxing symptoms (tiredness, headaches) which is usual on the first 2-3 days. It will be interesting to see the results from both since I have not read a strong inclination towards one or the other.

Res
January 5th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Keep us posted. :)

sadsak39
January 10th, 2009, 07:06 PM
I've found that adding some pulp and peel- or even the whole lemon- to my vitamix, keeps me more satisfied. I know it's healthy, just a little bitter. I mix it up, some days just juice, some days whole fruit- juiced to complete liquid.:)

georgette
January 10th, 2009, 10:15 PM
On the Meyer's Lemon choice...do they have a higher sugar content influencing sugar metabolism?

Water_Lilly
January 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM
Today is day one of my fast so I'm no expert. But I blended the whole lemon and other ingredients and then strained the lemonade into my water bottle. Feel like at least maybe some of the vitamins in the peel will still get through this way.

edward_b
September 11th, 2009, 02:04 PM
I'm been juicing organic lemons with a typical juicer cup/tray by hand. Needless to say, a lot of pulp remains this way. Is it ok to include this pulp in the MC "lemonade"? I've read all the posts but the answer doesn't seem clear. As solids, the pulp seems insignificant, but I don't want any solids in there if I'm not supposed to have them. :confused: Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! :)