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Peter
January 3rd, 2004, 06:21 AM
Others I've talked to have occasionally found that the first day or two of drinking the salt water didn't produce any elimination. Usually this is true of those that eat meat or dfairy products regularly. Adjusting the salt (usually increasing it), often does the trick.

People have told me that 30 to 60 minutes after drinking the salt water they usually have an urgent and intense need to eliminate. This generally occurs several times over the next 45 to 90 minutes.

Some people gag on the taste. It's much easier to take if you use the uniodized sea salt that Burroughs says to use. My wife recommends using a straw so that the taste isn't so strong.

If all else fails, Burroughs does say on page 22, "If for some reason the salt water cannot be taken in the morning, then the herb laxative tea must be taken night and morning."

It's important to understand that there are two parts to this cleanse. Part one is the detox: mobilizing the "junk" from the part of the body where it's stored. Part two is elimination: ensuring the "junk" is washed out of the body quickly and regularly so that the toxins are not reabsorbed making you feel sick or miserable. The salt water flush is a powerful part of that elimination process.

Guest
January 8th, 2004, 06:14 PM
I started the master cleanse on January 3 and so far so good. I have a question about the salt water flush. Can you drink the salt water flush at night say around 5:00 pm and then take the laxitive in the morning? I drive a truck for a living so I work a lot of different hours and it is nearly impossible to do the flush in the morning.

In the book it says to take the laxitive tea at night and then do the flush in the morning or drink the tea again, but I would rather include the flush.

Peter
January 8th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Sometimes the salt water flush doesn't do anything for the first day or two, but once it works it washes everything in the system through and produces an urgent need to eliminate in about 30 - 60 minutes. At that point, it usually produces several bowel movements over the next hour. This would make it very difficult to sleep and would be washing away the lemon and cayenne rather than letting it work overnight.


What you could do is just do the laxative tea morning and evening, but it will probably make you eliminate several times during the day as well. I've never done it. My daughter-in-law has done the tea morning and evening rather than the salt water flush and it's produced 4 or 5 eliminations a day .

joefrogcool
January 9th, 2004, 01:12 PM
Peter I have a question for you concerning the amount of salt. I did the normal amount this morning and usually I have a couple of eliminations within the first 2 hours. This morning I went 4 hours before any elimination and then it was not very much at all. ??? My question is should I increase the salt or decrease it? Thanks. Also, thanks for the bulletin board. It's fun to keep up on all of the replies. ;D

Guest
January 9th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Like to answer joefrogcool. I think you need to use more salt. The flush should have at least the salinity of sea water. Less salty, it is not much different from soup, except for the taste, and soup does not produce elimination.

It's the salinity of the drink that gives it the laxative effect. I read about some traditional sea water enemas in some country that does the same thing, except of course the water is fed from the other end. I have used flushes from common table salt, not sea salt, and it works just as well.

It is not good to not have elimination after taking a flush because the salt will get absorbed by the body. Human body likes to keep salt. I get bloated eyes and swollen ankles if I didn't ensure elimination during a flush.

Reason why a flush don't work might be 1) due to salinity 2) amount of food in the digestive track 3) position of food in the digestive track.

If there is too much food to push to the end, one flush might not be enough. Chaser flush will be needed to overload the system.

The flush works better if food is further down the digestive track. If the flush is done too soon after the last solid meal, it won't work properly.

But of course these are only problems with the initial flush. After a more or less clean track has been laid out, subsequent flushes should be alright as long as the salinity is correct.

Years ago, I came across a Japanese fasting method that uses Japanese soy sauce instead of salt. The recipe will make a drink as salty as, u guessed it, sea water. It showed me the flexibility of the system. Now, I use a dash of soy sauce with the salt water to make the drink more appealing. Especially when hot, it can pass off as a salty soup. A good soy sauce can give good flavour.

lynnjackson
January 9th, 2004, 03:44 PM
The following site identifies a few exercises to do in order to get the salt water flush to move along more quickly. I do the exercises after drinking the 32. oz. salt solution and it works "explosively" ;) within 30 to 40 minutes.

PLease note that the website reference is for the EXERCISES ONLY.

http://www.lifeevents.org/salt-water-cleanse.htm

JH
January 16th, 2004, 08:57 AM
I am no day three and I have no real BM. Minor ones, but nothing I would consider detoxing. I am using the tea at night and I can only manage 1/2 of the Salt Flush in the morning. I read that increasing the salt might help but if I can only handle 1/2 now, I don't think increasing it will help me. I feel like I am floating around I drink so much water/liquid. I an not hungry or craving anything. My only detox symptom is a sinus infection. [I was wondering if anyone had any reason, suggestions, or ideas. ???

vulchre
January 16th, 2004, 01:57 PM
I am in highschool, I get up at 5 in the morning and leave the house at 6:10, I can't do the salt in the morning because I don't think I will have enough time to let it work. Can I do the salt flush when I come home? Either at 3:30 (usually) and on some days around 5:30. I know how you said you need to let the pepper work over night, but I don't have any of the pepper!! Don't you think the flush will work and be done at five? =(

I also wanted to know if sarsaparilla tea was good enough.

Peter
January 16th, 2004, 04:26 PM
Hi and welcome to the cleanse and the bulletin board :).

That's great that you are taking such good care of your body starting so young.

Stanley Burroughs says on page 22 of The Master Cleanser, "If for some reason the salt water cannot be taken in the morning, then the herb laxative tea must be taken night and morning."

You MUST go to the store and buy some cayenne pepper. It is sold as red pepper. It helps to dissolve the mucus and build the blood. It also opens the blood vessels to increase the flow of nutients to the body's cells. It's not the master cleanse without it. It is quite inexpensive.

Sarsaparilla tea is not a laxative. Sasparilla is good for gout and rheumatism and is very similar to testosterone in the body! It is not a laxative.

Licorice root is a mild laxative. Senna is a stronger one. Go to the health food store and buy a combination tea with both of those in it. If you don't have a health food store nearby, email me and I'll put you in touch with a store that will sell you a box for $4.20 plus shipping.

Please buy the book and read it. It sounds like you're missing the mark with no salt water, no cayenne and drinking sasparilla tea. I want you to get all the benefits you can. ;)

Peter
January 16th, 2004, 04:35 PM
I am no day three and I have no real BM. Minor ones, but nothing I would consider detoxing. I am using the tea at night and I can only manage 1/2 of the Salt Flush in the morning. I read that increasing the salt might help but if I can only handle 1/2 now, I don't think increasing it will help me. I feel like I am floating around I drink so much water/liquid. I an not hungry or craving anything. My only detox symptom is a sinus infection. [I was wondering if anyone had any reason, suggestions, or ideas. ???
There's hope. Don't despair. ;)

First, be sure you're using uniodized sea salt not regular white salt. Sea salt is MUCH easier to get down. (I recommend Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt. 8))

Second, it is not uncommon for people who have been eating meat and dairy products not to have any solid eliminations for the first one or even two days. :-[

Third, are you drinking laxative tea morning and evening? Until you are eliminating, do both. Once you start eliminating, drink it in the evening and do the salt water in the morning. 8)

Guest
January 17th, 2004, 07:03 AM
i drank the salt water flush and it came right thru me!!! ;D but it was watery...is that ok?

Aeon
January 17th, 2004, 11:21 PM
I have a question for anyone that can answer it... I am on day 6... the SWF just won't stay down so I am doing the senna tea morning and night.... I hate to say this but it is making my loo visits very painful. My body wants to expell waste but there just isn't much there... I just don't think that can be good for the colon. >.<! Is anyone experiencing the same thing? How can I avoid these painful BM's? I am thinking about discontinuing the senna tea for a few days to give my bum a rest. Sorry, too much info, I know but it is becoming a concern... :-[

joelaguit
January 17th, 2004, 11:30 PM
A reply to Aeon's question...some lax teas can cause quite a disturbance in the colon. You could try changing the brand of tea you are drinking If you are experiencing to much pain. Some herbs have a milder effect. I experienced the same thing. Regarding the SWF, have you tried drinking it warm? That is the only way I could down that stuff and it worked very well. I tried to imagine that I was drinking warm soup and that helped me along the way.

Good luck!

Monique

Aeon
January 17th, 2004, 11:32 PM
Thanks for the response, I think I will give the SWF another go with warmer water... and tomorrow I'm going to get a different laxative tea... Senna was fine until today... +_+ wish me luck! :-[

joelaguit
January 17th, 2004, 11:39 PM
Cascara Sagrada is a beneficial herb (it's actually bark) that I have used and found it to be milder than senna. I took it in capsule form. I don't think it should effect the cleanse. Just take lot's of water along with it.

JH
January 18th, 2004, 01:22 PM
I am on day 5 and still no real BM. I was under the impression that with in 30-90 after the flush, I would have some type of movement. I have very little movement. The tea didn't seem to be working so I switched back to my Herbal colon cleanse pill I was taking before the cleanse. Before I started the cleanse I had more BMs with my pill than I do now. Should I be taking that in the morning as well. The only real detox symptom I have is a sinus infection and tiredness. I am drinking between 70-80 oz of juice and mixing in water throughout the day. What seems to be the problem? I can only get down ½ of the salt flush. Is that the issue? Confused. ???

joefrogcool
January 18th, 2004, 07:19 PM
Not doing all of the salt water is probably part of the problem. Does your tea have senna in it? The tea we use is straight senna that I got at the health food store. Unless your colon was totally cleansed out before the master cleanse (which I doubt) then you should be having bm's. And make sure it is celtic sea salt, not just sea salt. Good luck.

JH
January 18th, 2004, 10:12 PM
I had some BMs today but not much. I gag when I drink the salt water that is why I can only get through 1/2. As for the Tea... I am going to try my Heral Colon Cleanse. It worked before and has helped somewhat toay. I will give it two days and see. If not, I will try another Tea. As for the flush, I will try to take more. I read the post on drinking it warm. I will give that a shot tomorrow.
Thanks for eveyone's posts. They are really helpful and the responses are quick.

pippa
January 19th, 2004, 11:16 AM
just wanted to know if it is normal to feel incredibly thirsty after the salt water flush (seemed to happen a few hours after drinking the sw).. I am presuming it is normal but just wanted to make sure this OK and not harmful to me. By the way, I was amazed at how well the flush works, brilliant. Today is my first day on the cleanse

Chordata
January 21st, 2004, 01:01 AM
okay, so i went out and bought the book at my local whole foods today and was so stoked on this whole detox that I went and drunk the pint of salt water. Almost immediately, i had a sudden attack of heart burn and had an overwhelming urge to vomit. I'm only 19 and I'm wondering what could have caused me to be hit with such a violent attack of heart burn. could it be that I did the saltwater about an hour after I had eatten? :P

Peter
January 21st, 2004, 08:17 AM
Hi. Welcome to the bulletin board and the cleanse :).

Congratulations on doing something good for your body ;).

Yes, doing the salt water flush after eating is the wrong thing :-[. Please reread the directions on the cleanse on pages 17, 18, 20 - 22. The salt water flush should be done first thing in the morning after an herbal laxative tea the night before.

If you want a short summary, see "The Master Cleanse" page by clicking the [b]Site Home link at the top of the page. THIS IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE BOOK. For instance, how to break the fast is covered at much more length in the book.

I hope this helps you get all the possible benefits from the cleanse. 8)

Peter
January 21st, 2004, 08:20 AM
just wanted to know if it is normal to feel incredibly thirsty after the salt water flush (seemed to happen a few hours after drinking the sw).. I am presuming it is normal but just wanted to make sure this OK and not harmful to me. By the way, I was amazed at how well the flush works, brilliant. Today is my first day on the cleanse

Interesting question :-/. I've never run across that, but I also start drinking the lemonade within a half and hour or hour after the salt water flush. It makes sense though, if you've not started to drink the lemonade. 8)

Sarah
January 22nd, 2004, 02:00 PM
I'm planning to start the cleanse on Saturday, but I have a concern regarding the SWF and laxative tea: after doing the flush and taking the tea for as long as I do the cleanse, is there a danger that my bowel will have become dependent on these, leading to problems after the cleanse?

Peter
January 22nd, 2004, 03:19 PM
Hi and welcome to the board and the cleanse:).

Although I've had two other people ask that same question, I've never known of anyone to whom that actually happened.

joefrogcool
January 22nd, 2004, 08:52 PM
I would recomend taking 1/2 tsp. celtic sea salt in a glass of water morning and evening. I read a couple of different places that we need to add celtic salt to our diet and that is a good way to do it. I have been doing that along with 8 glasses of water and going very regularly. ::)

Chordata
January 23rd, 2004, 12:07 AM
Hey there everyone,
so in reguards to the heartburn I had when I took the salt flush, I think the fact I used two tablespoons instead of two teaspoons caused my horrible discomfort. Today was my first day to I intend to try the flush tomorrow morning. ;)

Peter
January 23rd, 2004, 08:25 AM
I would recomend taking 1/2 tsp. celtic sea salt in a glass of water morning and evening. I read a couple of different places that we need to add celtic salt to our diet and that is a good way to do it. I have been doing that along with 8 glasses of water and going very regularly. ::)
I believe joefrogcool is talking about after the cleanse.

Burroughs is clear about two teaspoons of uniodized sea salt in a quart (32 oz.) of water first thing in the morning as part of the cleanse.

I also use Celtic Sea Salt routinely in my life and think joefrogcool's recommendations are great before or after the cleanse, just not as part of it. ;)

ransim
January 23rd, 2004, 10:14 AM
This is my first MC and when reading the directions I made note of all measurements. On the first day we did the salt flush first thing in the morning, apparently I got up too early to try this and instead of using 2 teaspoons used 2 tablespoons of salt. Let me assure you that will flush you out quickly and very throughly. My wife is still laughing at me. ;D

Chordata
January 26th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Okay guys, im on day five here and for some odd reason, this salt flush is REALLY not working for me. I've been extremely maticulous about adding the precise measurement and getting the water to a lukewarm temperature and yet only on days one and two did I get anything close to a result. For the last three days, I've simply absorbed the salt water. My face has bloated and my urine smells horrible. I did a salt test on the urine and found the level of salt to be astrinomical. I'm having much better results with the tea so I'm wondering if its possible to solely use the tea twice a day instead of drinking salt water in the morning.

Peter
January 26th, 2004, 05:12 PM
You can use the tea morning and evening instead of the salt water flush. Burroughs says on page 22, " If for some reason the salt water may not be taken in the morning, then the herb laxative tea must be taken night and morning."

Were you adding 2 teaspoons of uniodized sea salt to 32 ounces of water? Did you try increasing the amount of salt? Usually that's the problem. It just takes more salt.

Loose_Show
January 27th, 2004, 11:55 AM
...just wanted to know if it is normal to feel incredibly thirsty after the salt water flush

No doubt, Pippa, I'm on day 2, just got up this morning and slammed down the salt water. By the time I reached work (45 minutes) I was was pasty and parched.

The flush is already working very well and I'm very, very glad I'm not going to be lifting anything heavy today! (I'm still accustomed building houses for a living)

One question, just to double-check, using soy sauce with the flush is cool?

pippa
January 27th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Hi Loose_show

Just wanted to say I am on day 9 now and have learnt that if I wait about 30 minutes after the swf and drink about the same again in water, that feeling of being parched goes away. It also seems to help bring on the effects of the swf super quick

Glad to know its not just me feeling the thirst though
much love
Pippa

Peter
January 30th, 2004, 01:01 PM
One question, just to double-check, using soy sauce with the flush is cool?

Soy sauce is not included in Burroughs' maser cleanse and should NOT be added to the salt water flush to be sure you achieve all the benefits possible ;).

The reason for not adding soy sauce is that it contains protein (amino acids), which requires significant digestive work. In addition, soy sauce is pasteurized and thus contains no enzymes to help with its digestion. It's like drinking steak or cooked meat as far as the digestive process is concerned.

Loose_Show
January 30th, 2004, 08:57 PM
Thanks, Peter.

That's too bad, the taste of soy sauce would be a hell of treat! :P

macd2920
March 22nd, 2004, 02:40 PM
im on day three and this morning the lax. tea woke me up ...to do my business....i had a couple bms.... then i took the salt water after....is this ok?

SuPrA
March 25th, 2004, 08:38 PM
Hi! I'm on my second day and I was just curious about something. I appologize if it has been addressed and I overlooked it but here is my quesiton.

I am able to do the entire SWF with no problem. I am using Iodized Sea Salt. About 20-30 minutes afterwards I'm in the bathroom, but it is not solid. (forgive me for the description but I need to tell you exactly whats going on here) it is very flourecent yellow, and seems more or less like I am urinating out the butt. :o There is no discomfort or anything like that but I was under the impression that it should be solid. Also the few times in the morning are the only times I have a BM. Is this alright??
Was also wondering if the SWF could be done more than once a day.

Thank you and again sorry for being descriptive. ::)

Guest
March 26th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Your bowel movements are perfectly normal. Also, you should be using un-iodized sea salt for your salt water flushes. You probably should not do salt water flushes more than once a day.

KRK

PGW
April 5th, 2004, 12:55 PM
Hello All,

I was really impressed with the SWF. So much so, that I plan to do it regularlly, say every weekend. Does anybody know of any possible problems with this frequency? I am using uniodized sea salt. Will my blood pressure sky rocket? Also, the sea salt I have is coarse, so I assumed that it needed ground or smashed in a mortal and pestel-is this right? Or should I left the salt in coarse form and stick it straight in to the water? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Now, if I could only drink the lemonaid :)

Debi
April 10th, 2004, 11:54 AM
Hi SuPra. Thank you for your description as it's exactly what I've been going through and I was wondering if I should back off on the laxatives. I skipped the SWF yesterday for that very reason. I'm on day 5 and I'm feeling pretty good although a little tired. Have a great Easter everyone. By the way, how do you make these smileys work?

Guest
April 13th, 2004, 02:50 PM
I'm just starting the cleanse today and bought lemon juice concentrate...is that unacceptable? Lemons are 2 for a dollars these days but I'll go to the expense if "concentrate" in not good.

PGW
April 13th, 2004, 04:40 PM
Hi Mary,

I really couldn't tell you if it would or wouldn't work with lemon juice concentrate, however, it goes against the spirit of the cleanse. The main point of doing the cleanse is to help your body heal itself and rejuvinate itself by cleaning out stores of toxins. That's why the book wants you to use organic lemons, organic maple syrup, and distilled water-it doesn't contain any un-natural chemicals.

But, it is your choice though and I would bet that it would still work. Now whether or not it would taste good is another issue :) Good luck

Lotje
April 13th, 2004, 04:49 PM
I tried the SWF for the first time today (my first fast day) and it works, definitely! About half an hour after drinking it, I really had to go to the bathroom. An hour or so later, I had to go again.

However, I can't drink the whole quart. A quart is about a liter! I can't drink a liter of anything in one go, let alone a liter of salt water :o

TX_Wrangler
April 13th, 2004, 09:06 PM
Im on Day 15 and hadn't even been aware about the two different types of salt. The stuff I've been using doesn't say Iodized or uniodized. Under ingredients it says ...Seasalt....Hope its ok...I'll be buying a new one soon as this one is about gone.

tripoptics
April 15th, 2004, 06:04 AM
Today is the first day that the SWF did not make me feel sick as a dog. I attribute that to the fact that I used a different kind this morning. I read somewhere on the boards that someone switched to a sea salt that did not have a non-caking additive. The salt that I was originally using had this additive and was TERRIBLE. Yucky yucky yucky. So I went out and bought one with nothing added whatsoever. WOW! What a huge difference. Just thought I'd put that up here for those of you having difficulty getting this stuff down. It can be better... ;D

JT
April 15th, 2004, 11:56 AM
i posted this under anopther topic but figured i'd re-post it here...

a word about the SWflush and the lax tea... when i discovered this fast, it was through a company called "natural ways to health". *they sell diet supplements (which isn't really my game - i'm into whole natural foods). *anyway, they list the MC in their catalog among other cleanses, and they recommend usuing their "nutri-cleanse" capsules with it. *the capsules contain senna, among many other herbs & extracts. *i started the fast with these, with little result - 1 bm. *
on day 2 i found Burroughs' book and read about the lax tea & SW flush. *on that day i did the tea & the capsules with great results! *next i added the morning flush, and i've been amazed at my bm's. *i will continue to do all 3.
*
to make a long story short, if you feel the flush and the tea aren't working, i recommend adding these supplements. *www.naturalways.com is where you can find them. *you have to take 4 @ a time, 2-3 times/day.
also, someone on this board mentioned adding a drop or 2 of soy sauce to the SW to make it more palatable. *i strongly recommend that also.

lionessden
April 16th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Hi. I started the Master Cleanse last night with a cup of senna tea, and was able to drink about 3/4 of the salt solution. I was in the restroom several times over the course of the next two hours.

I've cleansed my system before, and the salt solution is the worst part of this. If you are having difficulty physically flushing out the toxins, try drinking psyllium once or twice a day. I've historically used it, and it cleans you out beautifully. I think it also works more slowly than the salt, which is jarring to many people's systems.

So far, so good. This is a great program. I like it a lot. Aside from the (usual) caffiene-withdrawal headache, I feel fantastic. You definitely have to get in a 'cleansing' mind-set for it to work.

tashinski
April 19th, 2004, 04:08 PM
I am on day one. I've decided not to do the swf.. i tried this a few years ago and it just was so horrible for me to drink.. :-X so I'm trying the Senna tea. I really like the taste of it.. and it seems to be working well so far. It runs through me pretty quickly. Just want to make sure that is OK.. will I not benefit as much if I do the tea instead of the Salt water?

I'm thinking that I will have a better chance of making it through if i don't do the swf.

phillpsych
April 19th, 2004, 10:21 PM
I am finishing day 5. I feel good, and have followed the program exactly. In the book, the salt water is not mandatory. But if it isn't used, then senna tea should be consumed in the morning instead. I am using the salt water. And I will say it is easily the worst part of this for me. On the second day, it almost made me vomit; but I held it in. This morning I woke up very early, having to use the bathroom. I did, and since it was so early, I decided to have the SWF. Oh, god. It worked. I am not have the huge earth shattering movements that some describe. But it is having an effect. I feel lighter, I am in a much better frame of mind, and I seem happier. I am looking forward eating. But rather than dreaming about the SAD food I could eat, I am craving Indian food. I think its all the Cayenne, which I love. This would be perfect if it were not for the SWF. But, I do it, because I am doing something good for my body. Long overdue and greatly needed.

max1
April 30th, 2004, 01:49 AM
mc fasters should really try to get that salt down because once you go to the bathroom and that stuff comes out you feel better and better....you have to eliminate no matter what...

Guest
May 12th, 2004, 01:47 PM
I've opted not to do the SWF (I honestly can't face drinking a litre of the stuff every morning), but have been taking the laxative tea every night so far (10 days). I've had no problems at all as far as BMs go - every morning I run to the bathroom and off I go. I've been feeling fine. I took one glass of the B&P shake when I first started, but haven't been drinking it since - I find the tea is fine.

Is this wrong? I'm not following the instructions to the letter, but I'm feeling fine and am moving the toxins regularly.

karen
May 19th, 2004, 05:31 PM
I'm having the same problem as "SuPrA" posted March 25th. My BMs are occuring 30-60 minutes after the SWF and are also only what looks like yellow water (Peeing out of my butt as SuPrA put it ;)). What should I do differently in order to eliminate something? I'm doing everything the book suggests. HELP!

Guest
May 20th, 2004, 08:31 AM
This is the start of Day 5 for me. I've been following all the directions, but it seems that with each additional day that I am on the cleanse, the SWF takes longer to go completely through me. Today and yesterday, it seemed like it did not go completely through (still having BM's, but less of them than the first 3 days) Is this common? Has it happened to anyone else? Should I be increasing the salinity to keep the SWF moving through at the same rate to make sure I get everything out? I'm drinking a Senna Leaf Tea (100% Senna) in the evenings, but that doesn't seem to be having an effect of "running through me" as others have described, so I've stuck with the SWF in the mornings instead of tea in evenings and mornings.

Bailey41483
May 30th, 2004, 04:23 PM
What temperature should the salt water drink be? *Should it be warm like the lemonade drink is???

Kat
May 31st, 2004, 10:29 AM
Hi guys. I'm on day 15.

The temperature of the salt water doesn't matter. I like it a little warm. My boyfriend likes it cold. Same thing with the lemon-aide. It is the ingredients that matter.

I wanted to say that I definitely would not recommend drinking psyllium while on the MC. I also would not recommend taking any other laxatives, nor would I recommend skipping the morning tea or salt-water. I would not recommend using iodized salt.

The instructions per Stanley Burroughs work as they are. Changing anything about it is not the Master Cleanse. You may see results, but the exact directions as written are tried and true, and bring the best results. I know Peter feels strongly about this, because it works.

Regarding the taste of the salt water - the first three days I didnt think I would keep it down. I started drinking it warm and pretending it was soup, which helped. Now I'm completely used to it, and it isn't a problem to get it down. I prefer the salt water to the tea, as the salt water goes through in an hour or so, and then I can get on with my day. The tea works more slowly, and has me in the bathroom throughout the day.

There's my 2 cents!
:)

Kat
May 31st, 2004, 10:37 AM
Carmelized,

I found that after the first 3-5 days, there was less coming out from the salt water flush. This makes sense, as most of the solid matter in your intestines passes out in those first three days, and you are not putting more food into you. I wouldn't change it or give up on it. There are still toxins flushing out, and you may be surprised at what you see a few days later.

As of Day 15, I am still seeing quite a lot of broken up mucous flushing out, and still feel better every morning after my flush.

;)
Kat

Allee
June 24th, 2004, 12:23 PM
Hello

I am about to start the MC when my maple syrup arrives, I live in Sth Korea and can only get A grade so I'm ordering it over the internet... ???

Before I start I have one concern regarding the SWF. I live in a humid climate and have traditionally gotten edema (water retention from salty food) during summer (probably also because of the toxins I have in my body), which it is now. Will the salt water flush affect this or because it is non-iodized will that make a difference? :-/

Thanks in advance ;D

Guest
July 16th, 2004, 08:46 AM
I was lucky enough to peruse this forum before diving in, so I had read everyone's personal comments concerning the SWF. I used the trick of thinking of a salty broth/soup when chugging the very warm saltwater...psychologically, this worked well! I have always craved salty things rather than sugary ones, so maybe this is why I can tolerate it so well.

In fact, this is also probably why I am keeping the maple syrup to 1 Tbsp. per lemon drink. I am also heavy-handed with the cayenne.

I have to say that if nothing else, this MC really, really helps to develop your patience. Today, I just have this overwhelming urge to hit the fast-forward button and see the results! As for weight loss...maybe a few lbs., but I suspect it's all water. Only time will tell, eh.

manceba99
August 4th, 2004, 10:37 AM
good morning
today is day three for me (yyyeaahh) and I am feeling much better than yesterday, except for this morning.
i did the SWF this morning for the first time and it was horrible!
I gagged and gagged and didn't even finish it all. but it did work almost immediately for me.

I couldn't find the light grey celtic sea salt that burroughs and peter recommend, and i am guessing that might be adding to the discomfort. I callled a health food store and they have it ;D, so i will pick some up today. i hope that makes it much better, i can't even imagine going through the same thing tommorow.
the SWF did make me feel much better this morning, which is a good thing and makes it a little more worth it.

good luck to all

stay blessed
m.r.

manceba99
August 5th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Good morning everyone

day 4 for me :).
I did the SWF this morning, again, but it wasn't that bad. I used the light grey sea salt recommeneded and it made a huge difference. i didn't even bother making the whole liter of SW, I left out about 4-6 oz.

it worked immeidately, and i went more than yesterday. one thing though, I felt bloated and uncomfortably full up until this morning when I got to work.
I am drinking much more water with the MC, i hope this helps.

good luck to everyone

peace and blessings

m.r.

Cara
August 5th, 2004, 03:35 PM
? Question...SWF ?
I have not taken the salt water flush at all and keep reading about it and now I am getting worried that maybe I should get it.
Is it harmful if I do not get it?
Hate to be gross here but I am not really going to the bathroom (#2) except once in the morning everyday. I do take a fiber (psyllium) with the MC once in the morning and once at night so that is why I was not worried about the SWF. If I am taking fiber and going once a day should I be going to the bathroom more?
Please can anyone answer this?
Thank you,
Cara

Guest
August 17th, 2004, 03:26 PM
I did my first SWF this weekend :-)

I used fine sea salt from France - it was white and all the same colour - was it likely to have been bleached - and is this a problem?

As expected I had a quick BM - it seems so powerful - can people confirm that this swf will no do damage to my insides - and that this salt will not increase my blood pressure (which is normall - but does it increase it?)

I think my BM since have been more regular.

Thanks :-)

Darkside
August 18th, 2004, 12:36 PM
Nope, the SWF will not harm your insides. It changes the density in your bowels so your body triggers the GOTTA GO exercise.

Also, it will not raise blood pressure because in the mixture that you do, your body can not tell the difference between the SWF and normal body fluid, so the salt is not digested.

hope that helps,

darkside

Guest
August 25th, 2004, 11:11 AM
Hi

I'm doing the MC for the first time. Today is day four. The first day, I didn't drink the SWF in the morning, but did the smooth moves tea. Day two, I had the tea am and pm and no SWF. The cramping was terrible, and I had diahrea all day. Day three, I tried the SWF in the am and skipped the tea. No cramping, but I am retaining water and not eliminating. Any comments or suggestions. I have lost 10 lbs (I was overweight at 5'5" and 188 lbs) and about 7 inches overall.

MamaS
August 25th, 2004, 02:31 PM
I find the SWF and tea really need to go hand in hand to be fully effective, the SWF really cleans out what the tea & lemonade dredge up

Hi

I'm doing the MC for the first time. Today is day four. The first day, I didn't drink the SWF in the morning, but did the smooth moves tea. Day two, I had the tea am and pm and no SWF. *The cramping was terrible, and I had diahrea all day. Day three, I tried the SWF in the am and skipped the tea. No cramping, but I am retaining water and not eliminating. Any comments or suggestions. *I have lost 10 lbs (I was overweight at 5'5" and 188 lbs) and about 7 inches overall.

Guest
October 5th, 2004, 12:39 PM
I have been doing the salt water flush for two days now and have had nothing solid released but I am having a large amount of bright yellow/orange fluid coming out of me...do you know what this is and if it is normal?

I have been very tired and a little nauseated since I started the cleanse. Is this also a normal part of the process?

Thanks for any help that you can offer!!

ugokat
October 5th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Hello... I just wanted to add my two cents here. Katie, I believe the fluid you are seeing is normal... at least I had the same thing... so either we are both weird... or maybe it is normal!!!

As for the tired part I was told by Peter that days 2,3 and 7 are the hardest... and for me Day TWO was terrible... I was soooo tired and had the worst headache, but day three was a good day a little sluggish on day 3 but for the most part I felt good!!

Hopefully this helps and good luck... I'm now on Day 5 and I feel pretty good, just a little tired of Squeezing LEMMONS EVERYDAY, but I look at it as preparing my meals :P

Guest
October 5th, 2004, 05:39 PM
Thanks Katrina!!! I read through all the other postings and it seems like there are a bunch of us flushing yellow liquid! So we can all be weird together!! :D

I'm looking forward to the "not so tired" period kicking in...this sucks!!!

Peter
October 5th, 2004, 11:30 PM
The bright yellow liquid is bile. It's normal and helps the liver flush toxins.

quietqueen
October 7th, 2004, 11:42 AM
The bright yellow liquid is bile. It's normal and helps the liver flush toxins.

as icky as it sounds I miss the days of bright yellow liquid....

still nothing!!! and I drank the tea and everything! *:-/

Peter I'm getting worried...is it okay for me to take the SWF at night? b/c in the morning things are so hectic I can't really fit it in....and this lax tea alone isnt doing much

if this is a detox fast then why is nothing coming out!!!! *???

I feel good today but I know for sure from this bloated feeling that I havent lost any weight or anything else) since day 3 *:'(

katiebug
October 7th, 2004, 07:40 PM
I'm hittin the same wall...running out of yellow liquid and nothing beyond that is coming out! Is this a sign of something being wrong or is it just a part of the cleanse? Help Please!!!

Peter
October 8th, 2004, 12:46 AM
Hi Katiebug and Quiet Queen,

Don't despair. These things happen fairly often. ;)

Katiebug, old waste comes off in layers. My first 20 day fast was just yellow liquid from about day 6 to 17 and then some semi-solid matter passed and I felt great. The lemonade with its cayenne, nothing to digest, and the laxative tea will dissolve the old stuff. Just give it a few days. :)

QQ, if nothing's happening, not even yellow liquid, please read my post When things are difficult and you're worried.

Both people who have attempted to do the SWF anytime after they ate or drank something were nauseated. :-[ Don't do it. Even if you didn't become nauseated, you'd wash away the cayenne and lemon juice that we want in the intestine to dissolve the old waste.

You should be drinking a cup of herbal laxative tea in the evening and in the morning if you're not doing the SWF. If you don't think it's doing anything, switch to pure senna for a few days. 8)

quietqueen
October 8th, 2004, 06:54 AM
i had a bm today!!!!!! ;D

granted it wasn't the best bm ever...but still....PROGRESS!!!

you should have seen me this morning I was so relieved i almost did a little dance lol

thanks for the advice on the SWF Peter...I'll be sure to only do it in the evening :)

Peter
October 8th, 2004, 11:57 PM
That's great! And it's just going to get better.

quietqueen
October 9th, 2004, 01:49 AM
Ok maybe I spoke too soon :-X

i had a BM yesterday morning due to the laxitive tea i took the night before (and was happy and relieved!)

BUT once I took the SWF nothing happened

in fact I retained water all day....felt sick to my stomach and even gained two pounds >:(

so i'm officially against the SWF now because I'm losing weight muuuuch slower with it then when I did the MC without it in the past. (i haven't lost an ounce since day 3 and obviously i'm very unhappy about this fact)

I'm sure the salt water helps out certain folks...but for me it's more harm than good...this is the most discouraged I've been since I started :'(

Peter
October 9th, 2004, 11:02 PM
If nothing's happening with the salt water, you need to increase the amount of sea salt you're using.

Have you read a book on the Master Cleanse?

Peter

gina23
October 11th, 2004, 01:32 PM
Well Everyone, Like the book and Peter say, if you do it right you will have success. yesterday I tried the SWF and only got 3/4 of it down. Didn't have much action yesterday. Seeing how I am off of work today I decided to try again. I almost gave up again but decided to just put the glass down and try again. sure enough a few minutes later I was able to finish and I have ran into the bathroom at least 8 times. It really does work and yes, it's all that cool bile that is releasing from the body. I realize now how much better I feel today having done the SWF right. Good luck everyone!!!!! Thanks for all of your words of encouragement. ;D

dani
October 16th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Hello. This is my first time doing the cleanse and I have a couple concerns that I saw addressed in previous posts, but I still have questions.
I think I am retaining the salt water. I'm on day 5 and for the first 4 days had eliminated nothing but the bright yellow 'STUFF". This morning, nothing. For a few days now, my eyes have been extra puffy and today I noticed my face is now getting puffy too. I guess my question is this: Should I stop the cleanse, let my body get back to normal, and then start again? Or should I just lay off the swf all together? I also just ordered the book, so I wonder if I should just wait to start the cleanse again when I've read it. Thanks. Oh by the way, I've already been adding more salt and still, nothing..

Trout
October 16th, 2004, 08:06 PM
Are you using exactly 2 TEASPOONS of UNIODIZED Sea Salt to 32 oz. of Luke Warm Spring Water? A lot of people make the mistake of 2 tablespoons. Good Luck!

dani
October 17th, 2004, 09:42 AM
Good morning. Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am using only 2 teaspoons of the salt. Do you think I should stop the cleanse, or just the sw part of it, or do you think it would be helpful to just drink more plain water after the swf before the lemonade? I really want to do this cleanse, but I'm starting to feel discouraged. Thanks again

Dani

Trout
October 17th, 2004, 10:13 AM
Hi, As far as the SWF, everything I have read says that it is a crucial part of the program, everyday. You might want to try having the tea in the morning as well. When it comes to quiting you have made it this far and are more than half way there, but it is a personal decision. I am on Day 6 and have thought about bailing but that would have made it all for not, and I am feeling the benefits. I am going to stick with it for the full 10 days. Good luck, and hopefully thing will take a turn for you.

LEMONSMOM
October 17th, 2004, 10:58 AM
today is my first day, i did the SW flush and nothing yet (it's been 4 hours) guess i'll just stick with the tea at pm and am see how that goes. I'm two lemonades in and hope this day goes good! :)

gina23
October 17th, 2004, 01:15 PM
Dani and Trout,

Don't be discouraged or give up. I'm on day 10 and my fiance noticed last night that my eyes were really puffy. Just be sure that you are using the right kind of salt and enough water. Do it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Wait 1/2 hour or so before drinking the lemonade. Our bodies are all different and like I've learned are at different levels of toxic. Meaning the detoxing will be more severe at times. Don't stop the cleanse. Just be positive and do what the book says. On this website go to webhome at the top and hit master cleanse. It goes through the directions of the cleanse in case you don't have the book yet. You can do it :D

Gina :)

Trout
October 17th, 2004, 01:51 PM
Hey Gina, Thanks for the words of support! Day 3 was the most trying but since then the results have been so positive there is no way I will not continue! Clear eyes, skin feels great, tons of energy, and really clear thought. I exercise a lot, mountain bike and walk, I think that has really helped as well. Not to mention I've lost 11lbs in 6 days which is a nice bonus because I was doing it mostly for the cleanse. On to Day 7!

gina23
October 17th, 2004, 06:44 PM
Great job Trout :D Keep it up. And it only gets better. I find that I am having a lot of cravings, not to be confused with hungar. But they are for healthy foods. Yeah!! I was going to stop after today but I think I'll go longer. Besides, I just went to the store yesterday and didn't get the right stuff for after the cleanse. I was reading some of the recipes and it sounds like I need a few more things for the frig. Good luck to you 8)
Gina

Peter
October 17th, 2004, 07:21 PM
I am using only 2 teaspoons of the salt. Do you think I should stop the cleanse, or just the sw part of it, or do you think it would be helpful to just drink more plain water after the swf before the lemonade? I really want to do this cleanse, but I'm starting to feel discouraged.
Dani, sometimes it takes a day or two before people have eliminations from the SWF. ;) By the way, the yellow water (yellow because of bile from the liver, which indicates the liver is flushing) counts as an elimination.

Burroughs says if the SWF isn't working, increase or decrease the amount slightly. I recommend you start by increasing the non-iodized sea salt slightly.

Also, your unhappiness is a symptom of toxins being mobilized and not eliminated fast enough. So, we know the cleanse is doing something, you just need to increase the elimination actions now and you'll be singing and happy with the rest of us!


Peter 8)

dani
October 17th, 2004, 09:03 PM
Thank you Peter, Gina and Trout. I will stick with it and keep you updated as to my progress. I'm really looking forward to this working for me, I was just getting nervous about all the salt staying with me. I have to say also that I LOVE having this bullitin board available to everyone. It makes such a difference.

Tanks again,
Dani

Trout
October 18th, 2004, 09:51 PM
Hi Dani, Just checking in to see how things are going for you, I think we are on the same Day, #8 for me tomorrow.I am having really positive result, I hope you are as well.

arubiana
October 26th, 2004, 07:45 AM
I just finished reading the Master Cleanse book. I noticed he suggests sea salt washes. I am allergic to sea salt...can uniodized regular salt be used?

Peter
October 26th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Hmmm... interesting question.

Are you allergic to many other things? If so, it's an indication that you have more than the usual amount of toxins and should either follow the instructions in my book for people who should take it easy or do a different type of cleanse. The Master Cleanse is very powerful and detoxes rapidly.

To answer your question about salt, I have had heard that uniodized regular salt is harder to get and keep down.

Peter

arubiana
October 27th, 2004, 05:55 AM
Thanks for the response! The only other thing I'm allergic to is gatorade.

would doing the laxative tea morning and night be ok?

Peter
October 27th, 2004, 11:50 PM
I think that's the best bet and it's what Burroughs says.

"When all else fails ..." ;)

Guest
November 5th, 2004, 03:52 PM
Does anyone suppose that doing the SWF in the afternoon instead of first thing make a difference?

Also, since my work schedule doesn't make it possible to do the SWF every weekday....do you suppose if i reversed the process - take the tea in the AM and the flush before bed - that would ruin my results ???

Peter
November 6th, 2004, 12:46 AM
The only two people I know who did the swf after eating anything (morning, afternoon or evening) were very nauseous! :-[ So, I don't recommend it.

If you can't do the swf for any reason, Burroughs says to do the laxative tea night and morning.

billiegail
November 14th, 2004, 08:58 PM
I have been looking for a group that offered what this site offers and there is just not one. I happened across this one tonight and It will be a blessing.
I started the cleanse about a week ago, but I keep eating. So tomorrow, I will start the first day without eating. I hope to stay on the fast/cleanse for 10 or more days.
This is my first fast, so I am not sure that is possible, but I am going to give it a shot.

I needed to know if the lemon drink should be drank after the flush, ALWAYS?

I go to college and I have to leave home around 6:30 am, so I am not able to do the salt water flush in the am. I drank some laxitive tea, but it had no affect on me.
It may have been that I kept eating.
I am taking my tea tonight and hoping to get a fresh start tomorrow.

I am looking forward to all the rewards this cleanse has in store for me.

Thanks and God bless
~BillieGail~

Peter
November 14th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Hi BillieGail, welcome to the bulletin board and this cleanse. :)

It is important not to drink the salt water flush after you eat or drink anything. The only two people I know that did that got very nauseated. So, yes, the lemon drink should be drunk after the flush, ALWAYS.

If you can't drink the salt water flush for any reason, Burroughs says you can drink a cup of the herbal laxative tea in the morning as well as the one at night. Sometimes the laxative tea or the salt water flush has no effect the first day or two. This is usually when someone has been eating lots of dairy and meat. Don't worry. It will work itself out. ;)

Peter 8)

findingme
November 22nd, 2004, 02:20 AM
Today is my first day starting the cleanse.

May I make a suggestion to those having issues with the SWF?

I got a 33 oz of water bottle, filled it with spring water, added my salt and let it sit out overnight on the counter.

Got up this morning,shook it up, removed the squirt top and chugged down 1/3 at a time. I know its 3oz short of what we are "advised" to take in, but for those that can't are aren't getting in any, it may help.

I was not able to get all 33oz down( I have a bad cavity, exposed nerve, lost cap) and it started burning BAD. So tomorrow is another day, 30-31 oz is better than non.


Hope that helps

Peter
November 23rd, 2004, 11:45 PM
Great idea! :)

By the way, the salt water flush is 2 teaspoons of non-iodized sea salt in a quart (32 oz.) of water. So, you're doing fine. ;)

Peter 8)

findingme
November 24th, 2004, 12:52 PM
:o OMG Peter no wonder I cant get it down :-[

Again today was 2 TBSP ::)

ok, well you can betcha I wont make that mistake again 8)

thanks and thanks for the super fast delivery of the books ;)

Peter
November 25th, 2004, 12:28 AM
Don't feel bad. Every month or so someone posts that same realization: teaspoons, not tablespoons?!!!

Your welcome on the fast book shipping. I believe fast service is what people deserve.

treehugger
November 26th, 2004, 01:27 PM
I am on day 4 and have been fine up until now. I think I am doing everything right but this morning I felt really tired so I just lay in bed until about 10 am. I had two glasses of lemonade drink as soon as I got up because I felt dizzy and may paniked partner thrust them on me. I was wondering if anyone thought it would be good to do the saltwater or lax tea now (mid day after 4 glasses of lemonaid drink) or just live with my toxins until tonight when I can have some lax tea?? Thanks

kxf
December 8th, 2004, 08:55 PM
Hello.

I have some unrefined coarse sea salt...is that the same or as good as uniodized sea salt?

(Iodine is not listed in the ingredients...only sodium and magnesium 2% are mentioned.)

Thanks,

kxf

Peter
December 8th, 2004, 09:57 PM
Yup, that's fine.

Guest
December 12th, 2004, 01:19 PM
So we're always taught that salt water is really bad for us to drink, that it is dehydrating and difficult for the body to process. Why is it ok to flood the body with salt water for this? Isn't it hard on the kidneys? Why not use regular water?

Peter
December 13th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Salt water as a replacement for drinking water is useless because the body cannot absorb the water. That's why you can die of thirst out in the ocean without fresh water. However, salt water works well for the flush for that very reason. The body can't absorb the water. So it washes through the whole digestive tract.

All of this is dependent on bringing the "weight" (specific gravity) of the water to that of sea water/blood (same weight). Occasionally someone will not have enough sea salt in the water and it gets absorbed rather than washing through. However, adding a little more the next day sets it right.

Guest
December 15th, 2004, 10:46 AM
Hi - I'm on my third day of the MC and I have a question concerning the daily elimination. I'm only drinking senna tea at night (no salt water flush in the a.m.). I'm having no solid movements - it's all really watery. I know in his book Burroughs says to hold off on salt water flushes if this happens: what else can I do to improve the situation?
Thanks,
Andrea

Peter
December 15th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Hi Andrea, :)

Usually, it's the salt water flush that creates watery eliminations. When people who are doing the salt water flush ask this question, I tell them that it's usual and tell them to continue.

However, if you're only drinking senna tea at night and no salt water flush in the am, I'd say continue to do the tea at night at least until the morning of day 6. If it's still watery and you're still not doing either the tea or salt water in the morning, then you might want to discontinue the cleanse until you get back to normal.

On the cleanse, you need to enhance your elminations to get rid of the toxins as quickly as possible. So, if you can't do that, it's best not to continue the cleanse.

Keep posting and let us know.
Peter

Guest
December 17th, 2004, 12:15 AM
Hi...I have a question about the SWF. I know that you are not suppose to eat or drink anything before the flush, but does it matter what time of day I do the flush?

I get up at 2:00 pm and go to bed about 5:00 am. Can I take the flush when I wake up this late? Or do I have to take it the morning?

Peter
December 17th, 2004, 12:33 PM
I've actually been too busy until 2 pm to do my flush a couple times and it worked fine, no problem.

Peter 8)

terranaomi
December 17th, 2004, 01:49 PM
hi everyone - i'm new here...just posted in the "what day are you on" thread - but had a question about the swf -

i've done it for the past three days and feel VERY bloated. i know that my body does not do well with salt - i tend to retain water very easily - so yesterday i doubled my water intake and am hoping to feel less "swollen" today or tomorrow. so my question is this - can i skip the swf for a couple of days and drink the lax tea in the morning and evening until i feel more normal as far as water retention goes?

thanks,
terra

Peter
December 17th, 2004, 08:57 PM
Hi again, Terra.

The short answer is yes. You can skip the swf in the morning and do another cup of laxative tea in the am.

The longer answer is that if you get the salt amount correct, you shouldn't bloat as it will equal the salt in blood and should pass through your body without being absorbed.

Why not do the tea instead for a couple days and then try the salt water again, but this time increase the amount of salt slightly.

Peter

terranaomi
December 17th, 2004, 09:06 PM
thank you, peter! i will try again.

another question - i felt so-so this morning, back ached quite a bit, and then by the afternoon i felt great - post gym. but around 3:30 (this happened yesterday, too) i started to feel tired, weak, kind of headache-y - is mid-afternoon a common period of detox? if so, is there anything i can do to prevent those mid-afternoon crashes? i took a nap and now i feel better - i'm a musician and have a show tonight, so i have to pull it together and get some energy...drinking lots of water and lemon drink...and hoping to feel great shortly!

thanks,
terra

Peter
December 17th, 2004, 09:12 PM
You haven't mentioned how many lemonade drinks you're drinking per day, but my first question is are you drinking enough lemonade/water during the afternoon? You should be drinking one ounce of lemonade/water for each 2 pounds of body weight. (75 oz. if you weigh 150 pounds)

Tiredness is one of the symptoms of dehydration. :o

The next question is which day are you on? Days 2, 3 and 7 are the toughest and some tiredness (a detox symptom) might be expected.

The full list of detox symptoms is in my book, Lose Weight, Have More Energy and Be Happier in 10 Days. ;)

Peter 8)

terranaomi
December 17th, 2004, 09:20 PM
ok, thanks, peter...i'm on day 5...i will up my water intake and see what happens.

sarahkuck
January 5th, 2005, 12:32 PM
Peter, I am on Day 2. I drank my SWF this morning. . . and with only 2 oz. to go, I threw it all up. I was really disappointed! My friend got hers down & had a great elimination this morning.

I took a 2nd SM laxative tea after throwing up the SWF. My friend told me she chugged hers in about 5 minutes. I had drank mine over about 30 minutes. . . do you think that made a difference? Of why I threw up? Should I just try again tomorrow?

THX, Sarah

Carol
January 5th, 2005, 11:23 PM
Supra wrote

"About 20-30 minutes afterwards I'm in the bathroom, but it is not solid. (forgive me for the description but I need to tell you exactly whats going on here) it is very flourecent yellow, and seems more or less like I am urinating out the butt."

I have had the same problem from day 1 through day 5. I am wondering if this is normal. The yellow is pure bright yellow, the same color as a lemon!!! I just added the senna laxative tea last night and didn't have that bright yellow on the first results from the laxative tea, but when I did the salt water flush, there it was again! I wish I could say I only had 30 to 45 minutes of toilet time. With the senna laxative tea, I sprang out of bed at 5:00 am and dashed to the john and stayed there pretty much about every 15 minutes until 11:00 am. Tonight there was a bowel movement not as urgent, but with some really real weird looking solids. What have I got growing in my gut? Also I have not lost any weight. In fact, the first day I gained a pound and a half and I am stuck at the same weight throughout. With the exception of some headaches and a sore behind (from some burning eliminations), I am feeling rather well. I am 60 so I have a lot of misbegotten dietary years to overcome! Plus recovery from alcoholism plus being an ex-heavy smoker. Is there any explanation for this yellow diarrhea?

luvalovely
January 6th, 2005, 02:31 AM
peter,

i'm brand new to the cleanse and i'm struggling...i'm sure you've answered this question tons of times before, but i can't seem to find the answer. my question is.....i'm having terrible terrible cramps with the laxative tea (to the point where i considered stopping the cleanse and i'm pretty committed to it), but i can manage the salt water flush. can i just do the flush with no laxative tea at night? second question....should there be any solid elimination during the day? i only have the bright yellow watery elimination...thank you sooo much for your advice (i appreciate this site!!) ;D

Guest
January 6th, 2005, 05:36 PM
The bright and sometimes florescent looking yellow is bile from the liver I am told. Not sure how long it is supposed to be happening, but I am on day 6 and still have tons of it.

As for the Senna tea - I cannot use it (straight). I have been using another tea that contains senna from another cleanse - KleriTea by Dr. Natura. http://www.drnatura.com/8885.php

I don't have severe cramping - just a bit that wakes me up in the morning so I go drink the SWF right away (I think I hold the world record for downing it) and the cramps go away immediately.

Also - make sure to drink lots of water. :) I helps the weight loss...

Hope this helps.

Peter
January 6th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Good tip on the tea and drinking water.

The bile has always continued throughout the cleanse for me. I always considered it was proof the liver was detoxing because bile is one of the ways the liver gets rid of toxins!

Peter

smelted
January 7th, 2005, 01:38 PM
Hi Everyone,
Since today is my 12th day that means so far I have drank a coulple of gallons of SW. Here is a couple of tips I use to make it easier.
1. Always make it in a jug that holds more than 32oz. I then add an extra 2oz of water and an extra touch of salt. Make sure you mix well. I seems that the last 2 oz are the hardest to drink, so now you can throw out the last few mouthfulls and still have got the full amount.
2 Prepare everything on your counter the night before so in the morning you can stagger out of bed , mix it up and chug it before you are truly awake.
3 Pick a focal point (I use a birhouse outside my kitchen window) and put your attention on the object while drinking. Study the object the way a scientist would, notice the color, the size, the texture etc . Before you know it you will be standing there with an empty jug.
4. I hate cold things , so I add a few oz of boiling water so that is it not such a brutal shock to my body.
5. Take a few quiet minutes everyday to relax take a couple of deep breathes and visualize all the benefits the SSF gives you. See all the toxins being released by all the cells in your body being swept away by the salt water.
6. Use the power of your mind. Think of SW as a magic potion that you GET to use, not something you Have to do. How you think of things has a lot to do with how your body will accept it. Change your mind and your body will follow.

Hope this will help all of you who are stuggling with the salt water portion of this cleanse. Power thru cause the results are worth it.

watsiyemz
January 8th, 2005, 02:52 PM
Wow great advice! I did my first swf today! I'm on day 5 and it was nasty! But it worked! And I thought it was pretty cool because I'm a little bit of a whacko! Thanks again for the advice.

smelted
January 8th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Hi again Watsiyemz,
I was just replying to another post you had about your weight. Now I know you are a fellow wacko I understand why you were weighing yourself several times a day. he he .Thanks for the praise . ;D

RamonaMendez
January 9th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Hello,

I was getting ok results with 2 tsp of sea salt in the swf, so I tried 3 tsp, and I am getting much better results. I was wondering if that is too much salt. Can anyone help me here. Thanks!

Lin
January 11th, 2005, 10:41 AM
I've done a little experimenting with the SWF because some days, it is very slow in working.

I'm currently adding 2 quite full teaspoons of sea salt to my quart of water each morning.
If I don't get any results past an hour after drinking the sea salt water, I drink a glass of plain warm water. I've also drunk room temperature water too, but the warm water works best (quickest). So far, each time that I've done this, I've had eliminations soon after.
I don't know if this will work for anyone else, but it's currently helping me out a lot.

Lin

TcRejoices
January 11th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Ramona,

3 tsp. of sea salt should not be a problem as long as your seeing good results by having the eliminations. From what I have read from earlier post on this site, a person should increase the sea salt if they are not having eliminations from 2 tsp.
Keep up the good work.

RamonaMendez
January 11th, 2005, 02:13 PM
Hi TcRejoices,

Thanks for the input. I kind of figured the same thing, but wanted to be sure.

Nina
January 14th, 2005, 01:09 PM
Day 10 came and passed. THis is my second day of orange juice and tonight I have veggie soup.

I have lost additional 3 lbs since I came off of day 10 cleanse! I also continued the salt water flush every morning since coming off the lemonade juice. Is that Ok? I hoped it would continue to let go of toxins and I'd loose weight, especially since I am still not eating anything, so why not?

In total I lost 13 lbs and I am more than happy.

Sarita
January 16th, 2005, 08:25 AM
This is my first morning on the MC and the SWF is enough to totally discourage you. It is the WORST thing I ever had to drink!!!! I broke out in a sweat, goosebumps and did everything to keep it down :-X :-X :-X I am still sick to my stomach....

I know that we can sub w/the tea in the morning, but I want to get the best benefit. Please see my post in MC beginner....
Please please any words of advise or support to help me thru this??!!! :'( help help help

PayMckinn
January 19th, 2005, 12:22 AM
hi i am on my 3th day of the cleanse, i felt kinda tired this morning and all tired yesterday but other than that everything is good, but question i have been using Epsom Salt for my flush is that ok?

WabiansGirl
January 19th, 2005, 08:46 AM
Hi PayMckinn,
I don't know anything about Epsom Salt. In fact, from these posts it seemed like people were bathing in it not drinking it. I do know that the book specifically said-- noniodized sea salt--is what should be used for the SWF. I'm on day 12 today and have had good results. What I try to do is follow the book to the letter with no variations. Good Luck. Hope that helps! :)

le
January 19th, 2005, 11:12 AM
Peter, I am on day 3 and I am nothing but liquid even after the salt water flush. Is this normal? Should I do anything different. I took the tea last night and the salt water flush this morning. I had been just doing the teas at night and in the morning. Should I continue the salt water flush even though it almost made me throw it all up this morning several times?

Peter
January 19th, 2005, 04:15 PM
the SWF is enough to totally discourage you... but I want to get the best benefit.
Please please any words of advise or support to help me thru this??!!!
Hi Sarita, :)

The salt water flush will get easier. I promise you.

It is also, in my opinion, the way to get the best result.

Peter 8)

Guest
January 27th, 2005, 01:33 AM
hello everyone!
i guess i feel the same way about the the swf as everyone else does i am on my 4th day and i noticed in another thread someone posted that they mix the 2 tsp of ssalt with 8 ounces of h20 and quickly follow with the remaing water sans salt.
that sounds like it would help me tremendously. do u know if this method works better and would u recommend it?

nu.

WabiansGirl
January 27th, 2005, 06:38 AM
Hi nu,
Although not quite an expert, and this is my first cleanse, I am on day 20--Yeah! :D I've found the swf easier and easier to do as the days go by. Make sure that you are using the right amt of salt --2tsps--and making it warm really helps. Also, a trick I did for the first couple days was to dab a little lemon on my tongue and it really helped it to go down. as for doing it like a shot, I have no idea if that gives you the same result. Somehow I doubt it would. Hope that helps. ;D

albi
January 27th, 2005, 12:31 PM
I an on day 3 of the fast and not having any elimination but lots of colon pain on the loo. : :-[ I am also having trouble getting the swf down .n the am so I am doing tea with it .. any help

Guest
January 28th, 2005, 01:08 PM
thanx wasabian,
it takes a little longer and its easier, but this is how i do it. i have 2 sixteen oz bottle of room temp zeppherhills water i open one and pour into a glass, i stir the salt and let it sit, then stir again any salt that has collected at the bottom, u know until its completely diluted, in 4 big gulps alternating with my bottle water i drink it down. about 1 hr and a half im on my way to the bathroom. do my yoga then go to work.
also i dont know that its related but since i started doin that yesterday i started havin' solid bms again...
nu.
**this is my second cleanse.

le
January 29th, 2005, 02:56 PM
Is Alessi Sea Salt okay for the SWF???

le
February 1st, 2005, 10:18 AM
Went last night and bought some non-iodized sea salt and did the SWF this morning with the new salt and nothing yet and it has been almost an hour. I will just wait and see.

I keep have bubbly eliminations, is this normal? Maybe a little solid and then just bubbles and a little liquid.

josieblue
February 6th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Hi! *this is my first time doing the MC and I'm on day 6. *So far so good ;D , but I have a question about elimination--

The amount of elimination I'm getting with the salt water flush seems roughly equal to the amount of lemonade I'm drinking- is it just the maple syrup and lemon juice being flushed out?

??? *

Debslaven
February 9th, 2005, 10:30 AM
I have such a problem getting down the 32 oz of salt water that today I decided to try the 2 16 oz method from an earlier post. I drank down the salt one pretty easily, although the stronger salt taste was almost overwhelming. Then I drank the other 16 oz easily and then laid on my bed and squished my belly all around to mix it up. I almost wish I'd gotten that on video, must have been funny to see if anyone could see. Anyhow, the salt makes me so thirsty that I tend to have another 16 oz within another 30 minutes. I'm always afraid that will dilute the mix, but it doesn't seem to affect anything, because when it finally hits, it hits hard! I did it at 8 this a.m. and am still thirsty. I bet I've had 60 oz of water today already! It is 9:30, and I'm finally ready to have a little lemonade.

dmorales125
February 12th, 2005, 01:11 PM
I am on day 2 and drank the SW and I drank the whole 32oz that I was to drink. After I drank it I puked some of it up cause I could not keep it down. Also is it normal that after drinking the SW to have Liquid BM. I have gone about 5 times and all that comes out is liquid.

Any one with an answer to this please respond. :-/

babypiggy
February 12th, 2005, 01:29 PM
dmorales125

That's totally normal. *Remember when people say "BM" it just means that your bowels moved and eliminated something. *It doesn't say anything about the consistency, content, etc.

I think some people get confused about this because as kids, the term "BM" is used a euphemism for "solid excrement."

After the SWF I typically have about 4 or 5 BMs over the next 2 hours. *All are liquid. *The first 2 will have some brown material in them but then the last 2 or 3 are typically just clear and very bright yellow liquid.

Hope this helps put your mind at ease! *;)

As for vomiting some of the SWF, read back on this thread because there are some suggestions for making it more palatable that might help. I haven't had this problem myself but saw some good posts.

babypiggy

dmorales125
February 12th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Thanks BabyPiggy,

I figured out why I puked the SWF. I used Tablespoons instead of Teaspoons.

What a morron I am. LOL ;D

WabiansGirl
February 13th, 2005, 01:25 PM
you're not a moron, dmorales ::) I did it too my first time and spewed all over my kitchen--learned that lesson. I think others have done it too. Happy Cleansing!

dmorales125
February 13th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Hi WabiansGirl,

Today I did it right. I used Teaspoons and it went down alot better.

Thanks ;D

brandy76
February 18th, 2005, 11:55 AM
I'm about to start the cleanse this weekend & was wondering if I could switch the order of the SWF (to night) & laxative tea (to morning).

In the past (not doing the cleanse) I have taken the laxative tea at night & in the morning getting ready for work I get very delayed becaused I'm eliminating, but very slow (1st right away, then 15 minutes later then 1/2 hour later & so on). Since I have an hour commute on a bus to work this way is not feasible.

I would rather take the SWF in the evening when I'm home . Then drink the tea in the morning when I get to work @8:30am, since by time the tea it kicks in I'll still be at work or if i'm just getting out of work at least I could wait there for it to finish as opposed to getting to work 1-2hrs late each morning (if i do it the other way)

Is this okay?
ps. as for taking the SWF in the morning, my bowels are very slow. I've also done the flush before & it takes a good 3hrs for everything to be done, again I can't do this before work.

Ginger
February 18th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Hi Brandy

You shold never do the SWF on a full stomach. It will make you feel quite ill. You could try setting your alarm 3 hours early, drinking the SWF and going back to sleep till it hits you.

Good luck

Ginger

brandy76
February 19th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Hi Brandy

You shold never do the SWF on a full stomach. It will make you feel quite ill. *You could try setting your alarm 3 hours early, drinking the SWF and going back to sleep till it hits you.

Good luck

Ginger

Ginger,
But what food would I have in my stomach since I'd be on the fast?

Ginger
February 20th, 2005, 03:46 AM
Brnady

lemonade

Ginger

Guest
February 28th, 2005, 11:02 AM
I just started the cleanse today, taking the senna tea last night before bedtime and doing the salt water flush this morning. I made a mixture of 4 cups warm water and 2 tsp sea salt, and was able to drink about 3 cups of it. I had my first elimination within 20 minutes of starting to drink the SWF, and have had several more since then. My only possible concern is that the last few eliminations have been very watery, almost straight liquid...does anyone know if that is normal? I just had my first drink of the spicy lemonade and it's yummy!

TcRejoices
February 28th, 2005, 12:21 PM
Laelle,
Don't worry! That's totally normal! ;D

lokibear
March 4th, 2005, 07:43 PM
I recently finished the Master Cleanse (lasted 24 days). I have continued to use the salt water flush daily and I am wondering if this is ok.

Thanks

Resonnant
March 5th, 2005, 02:45 PM
Drank tea last night and worried on and off through the night about the Salt Water Bath. *I've swallowed enough in the ocean to know it's not something to look forward to. =)

Made my first batch this morning and partook. *Actually, it wasn't bad at all. *I think the key is the water temperature. *If it's warm enough, it reminds me of drinking Chicken Soup -- without the chicken. * *It was actually comforting...nice. *However, drinking 32oz of anything at 5:30 am is a stretch. *AND it only took about 10 minutes for it to start working. *It takes me 25 minutes to drive to work in the morning so there's no way this is going to work. *I'm going to have to stick to the tea on weekdays.

One thing I'm not going to give up unfortunately....my coffee. *I don't want to go through the headache BUT I've cut back from 4 cups a day to 1 in preparation for the Master Cleanse.

I'm really glad to have found this place.

~Christine

I just read back a bit and someone mentioned doing the Salt Water in the evening? Is this feasible if you wait 3 hours between lemonade?

Thanks!

Guest
March 7th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Regarding the SWF... I hate water, it makes me sick almost to drink it. I do better however if the water is ice cold. So, my question is... once I have mixed the salt with warm water to dissolve it... is it okay to then add ice to the water to make it cold and easier for me to drink? Is there any other reason it must be warm other than to dissolve the salt? Thanks!

Guest
March 8th, 2005, 10:41 PM
I have been doing the Salt Water as part of the Master Cleanse for the last 5 days, it is very hard for me to drink the full quart of water/salt - it makes my stomach hurt to drink so much. Is it possible to take the salt in a smaller portion - say in a shot glass diluted with water and then follow up by drinking the remaining water without the salt - Will I get the same results? ???

Guest
March 8th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Regarding my post yesterday about drinking the salt water solution ice cold == Well, suffice it to say, I answered my own question this morning. ;D I did not have any results from the SWF yesterday morning, so I increased the salt amount to 3 tsp. this morning, and I went ahead and iced down the solution so I could drink it easier. Went down much, much easier and being cold must not make any difference because about an hour later, I was paying ample respects to the throne. ::)

Resonnant
March 12th, 2005, 03:16 PM
Gina,,

Glad to hear it worked out for you. I suppose using cold water is better than not doing the flush at all. Good job.

BTW, I gave up the coffee. :)

~Christine

Guest
March 29th, 2005, 10:00 PM
HI,

With working at a school, it's tough to run to the bathroom as I would need to after the SWF...I have been doing the tea AM and PM, but not as effective.

Is it possible to take SWF at another time of day? Say early evening...or would it be better to set alarm for 3 AM (giving 4.5 hours to safely finish the toilet runs)?

thanks!!

TcRejoices
March 29th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Elayne,

It is NOT recommended to do the SWF in the evening. A few people have done that to only throw it all up. You need the benefits of drinking the lemonade during the day along with the lax. tea to loosen up the toxic waste during the day and nighttime hours. Your best option is to get up at earlier and drink it. You could then to back to bed and sleep until the urge to eliminate wakes you up.

souldancer
April 3rd, 2005, 04:08 PM
Thanks TC...Yesh, that was not a good idea I just took the tea on the AMs I didn;t get up early enough and have done the SWF in the AMs the past few. Doing the exercises someone recommended with the flush have been helpful too. I just have to plan my days at home for hours around the flush. The last two days I had AM things to do, so I kept an empty stomach until 11 am and then did the SWF..some action, but feeling a little bloated and puffy now. Today is Day 7.

sweetk
April 11th, 2005, 09:32 AM
Hi Peter,
This is Day 1 of my third cleanse! :D I drank the "Get Regular" laxative tea last night and I prepared the salt water flush for the morning. I set my alarm early and prepared to drink it. I chugged down what I could, and it was terrible. :-[ I only managed to get down about a third of the quart. Two hours later I had a good sized elimination. My question is, do you think it's OK to just drink part of the salt water flush? After all, I still had a bowel movement? ::)

Guest
April 18th, 2005, 11:35 PM
I just completed day 15 and I have been doing the salt water cleanse every morning. I drink the water at room temperature and I use uniodized sea salt. It wasn't until I started reading some of the message board comments that I wondered this: Are you supposed to have 2 - 3 SOLID eliminations per day? I have one solid one (since I've been doing the Psyllium and Bentonite shakes), but the others are liquidy and after about an hour and a 1/2, I don't have any more eliminations until the next day. Am I doing something wrong? I drink Smooth Move tea in the evening and drink 2 gallons of distilled water each day to avoid dehydration. Any help is appreciated.

Guest
April 25th, 2005, 10:21 PM
I plan on starting on Wed. since Tues. is my B-Day. I have been planning this for two weeks. I've given up coffee, and sodas, stopped eating spicy foods so that I wouldn't be experiencing those horrible caffeine withdrawal headaches that I get. :-[ I didn't want anything to discourage me from at least completing the 10 days. I have three questions ??? 1. Is red pepper the same as cayenne pepper? 2. I can't seem to find uniodonized salt. Is coarse sea salt okay? 3. I have Smooth Move tea and not the Senna, what is the difference? Will it work the same?
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Melissa

xenabyte
April 28th, 2005, 01:14 PM
I plan on starting on Wed. since Tues. is my B-Day. I have been planning this for two weeks. I've given up coffee, and sodas, stopped eating spicy foods so that I wouldn't be experiencing those horrible caffeine withdrawal headaches that I get. :-[ I didn't want anything to discourage me from at least completing the 10 days. I have three questions ??? 1. Is red pepper the same as cayenne pepper? 2. I can't seem to find uniodonized salt. Is coarse sea salt okay? 3. I have Smooth Move tea and not the Senna, what is the difference? Will it work the same?
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Melissa



1. *Cayenne pepper is red pepper

2. *Course sea salt is fine, it will dissolve in the water and make the 'salt water' solution. *

I prefer the taste of 'RealSalt' brand, sea salt, over the Celtic Gray stuff, most recommend. *Celtic Gray makes me gag bad. *What you really want to avoid, is all the stuff they add to salt to prevent 'sticking'. *That stuff tastes BAD.

3. *I use the 'Smooth Move' tea, with a touch of the maple syrup in it and it tastes great, no cramping, and works like a charm first thing in the morning. *I sometimes use the 'SM tea' again in the morning, and alternate with SWF every other day. *I love the after effects of the SWF but some days it's easier to just make another cup of tea. *The Smooth Move tea has senna in it, but is lower dose and 'easier' on the digestive system. *I would not personally use a 100% senna tea, as that would be explosive....(You'd have to be very clogged up, to want to use it straight)



BTW, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Today (April 28th) is mine. I actually started it yesterday, to give myself another 'challenge'. I figure if I can do day 2 on my birthday, I can handle any dining 'issues' later on the cleanse. :) haha

xenabyte
April 28th, 2005, 01:20 PM
I just completed day 15 and I have been doing the salt water cleanse every morning. *I drink the water at room temperature and I use uniodized sea salt. *It wasn't until I started reading some of the message board comments that I wondered this: *Are you supposed to have 2 - 3 SOLID eliminations per day? *I have one solid one (since I've been doing the Psyllium and Bentonite shakes), but the others are liquidy and after about an hour and a 1/2, I don't have any more eliminations until the next day. *Am I doing something wrong? *I drink Smooth Move tea in the evening and drink 2 gallons of distilled water each day to avoid dehydration. *Any help is appreciated.


That sounds perfectly normal. I usually 'go' first thing in morning (any BMs that are more 'solid'), and if I do a SWF, for first hour after, then it's all 'liquidy' again, until next morning. Liquid 'eliminations' are still counted, since they are flusing 'loose' toxins. Solid BMs are not going to happen much, if at all, since you are not eating fiber...ergo, the SWF or lax tea to help you push any that is 'stuck' inside your intestines to get out, with all those toxins! :D

You doing great!

xenabyte
April 28th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Hi Peter,
This is Day 1 of my third cleanse! *:D I drank the "Get Regular" laxative tea last night and I prepared the salt water flush for the morning. I set my alarm early and prepared to drink it. I chugged down what I could, and it was terrible. *:-[ I only managed to get down about a third of the quart. *Two hours later I had a good sized elimination. *My question is, do you think it's OK to just drink part of the salt water flush? After all, I still had a bowel movement? *::)


Personally, I've left behind a 'tiny' bit in the jar, and drank it all. The only difference was the amount of time it took to 'totally' pass through.

I usually have one "GOOD" elimination (either way), and the rest is our beloved 'butt water'. So if you have any effect at all, it's doing it's job.

The remaining 'water' will just cleanse more liquidy 'toxins' out, and is probably a good thing to do, but if you had what you drank 'come out' then you should be ok.

I switched from Celtic Gray to 'RealSalt' brand sea salt, and find it's much easier to drink. (Still gag towards the end though...) Also, once it's mixed, I pour it into 3-4 little cups, that are much more 'mentally' 'chuggable' and it goes SO much easier.

Lissy
April 29th, 2005, 07:14 AM
1. *Cayenne pepper is red pepper

2. *Course sea salt is fine, it will dissolve in the water and make the 'salt water' solution. *

I prefer the taste of 'RealSalt' brand, sea salt, over the Celtic Gray stuff, most recommend. *Celtic Gray makes me gag bad. *What you really want to avoid, is all the stuff they add to salt to prevent 'sticking'. *That stuff tastes BAD.

3. *I use the 'Smooth Move' tea, with a touch of the maple syrup in it and it tastes great, no cramping, and works like a charm first thing in the morning. *I sometimes use the 'SM tea' again in the morning, and alternate with SWF every other day. *I love the after effects of the SWF but some days it's easier to just make another cup of tea. *The Smooth Move tea has senna in it, but is lower dose and 'easier' on the digestive system. *I would not personally use a 100% senna tea, as that would be explosive....(You'd have to be very clogged up, to want to use it straight)



BTW, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! *Today (April 28th) is mine. *I actually started it yesterday, to give myself another 'challenge'. *I figure if I can do day 2 on my birthday, I can handle any dining 'issues' later on the cleanse. :) haha



Thank you so much for answering my questions and all the advice. *And Happy Birthday ;)
Good luck on your cleanse ;D
Melissa

Guest
April 29th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Day 5 is finally here...the halfway point!!! Up until now, I thought everything had been pretty straightforward. Today I did the tea instead of the SWF (had to drive my boyfriend to work, which is about an hour round trip and didn't want to chance it).
So far today, 1 small elimination and a very runny nose and sick, cramping stomach :-X Is this because of a lack of eliminations?
Also, EVERYTHING smells medicinal and kind of like snot....really gross. Either way, back to the SWF tomorrow.....

saywhat1717
April 29th, 2005, 02:03 PM
Hey Serena! (its sarah ;) )

So the cramping may be from the lack of eliminations. Because they said if you dont eliminate all the stuff the lemonade broke up inside of you and got ready to flush out, if it isnt flushed out with the eliminations, it just gets reabsorbed into your body. So that might be why you have some cramps.

Also, from what I have read here, everyone has had really nasty eliminations from the SWF, just shows you all the nasty stuff we had in our bodies!

Anyway! Feel better! Talk to you later!

Sarah :D

empress
May 1st, 2005, 03:31 PM
Don't feel bad. Every month or so someone posts that same realization: teaspoons, not tablespoons?!!!

Your welcome on the fast book shipping. I believe fast service is what people deserve.


i think some copies of the book must have a typo. i'm quite sure my book says 2 TABLESPOONS for the saltwater flush.

Peter
May 1st, 2005, 09:44 PM
Hi Empress, welcome to the bulletin board. :)

I checked my book and Burroughs' book and both say teaspoons for the salt water flush. However, they both say tablespoons for the lemon juice and maple syrup in the lemonade. Perhaps you confused those two. ???

If not, please let me know which book and which page says tablespoons of sea salt for the salt water flush.

Peter 8)

Ginger
May 1st, 2005, 11:38 PM
Hi Serena

Cramping is quite common if you're drinking senna tea. I get them about 6 hours after drinking my tea.

Ginger

Guest
May 3rd, 2005, 09:45 AM
I've just begun day 4 and, except for day one, have experienced only liquid elimination, (bright yellow). I'm doing the SWF exactly as prescribed and have actually increased the salt each day. This morning I also had Senna tea...but nothing other than liquids has been eliminated. This is frustrating me...I've never had this problem before. Any advice?

Ginger
May 3rd, 2005, 06:09 PM
Hi Nick

That is totally normal. I think the lemonade breaks up the waste. At some point there will probably be solids and browns etc. But don't worry.

Ginger

empress
May 5th, 2005, 10:23 AM
FINALLY! i am on day 6 of my second master cleanse. i have tried to do the SWF at least 5 times already using variaous methods and EVERY time i've thrown it all back up. thanks to a suggestion I read here about lemon, I was finally able to get it all down and keep it down!

The trick is to chug from a straw and between every sip, place a slice of lemon on your tongue to neutralize the salt flavor in your mouth. I did not have the urge to gag once. Prior to this, everytime I'd take a sip I'd have to fight back the urge to spit it back up.

Anyway, just wanted to share this with anyone that might be having trouble with the SWF.

Guest
May 5th, 2005, 04:44 PM
I've always felt quesy and had to stay still for about 10-20 minutes after chugging the Salt Water.

I'm not taking any laxative tea at night. Just the lemonade mixture and the saltwater flush.

Guest
May 13th, 2005, 12:02 PM
Hello Everyone,

Today is my first day on MC and so far it is good,hopefully it will stay that way around lunch time... I had a question about SWF, I was not able to drink all 32 oz. I drank about 20oz and it took me about 1 hour or so to drink it. my bm was bad(hardly anything) I am sorry about details.Is there a specific amount of time that SWF needs to be taken in? and how many oz's of lemonade do I need to make daily... I just want to say that I admire all of you for doing this and Peter for making this website it is huge help and huge support...

Thank you and happy cleansing to all,
Aida

constantino
May 13th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Hey,
I'm on day 5 of my 4th fast. I was hoping I was doing alright. Because of my schedule it's hard to do the SWF in the morning. I do the SWF when I get home from work.. followed by 2 lemonade drinks (or more) Then the tea before bed (all with in 4-6 hours time). I get up and poop out everything from the tea (4-5 poops) then do it all over again after work. I get more than enough BM's during the day 10 or more and still there's lemon and cayenne in my system while alseep. Is this efficient enough?

TcRejoices
May 13th, 2005, 07:56 PM
Constantino,

I don't know what time you have to go to work. *Several cleansers get up two to three hours before they have to leave for work and drink their SWF and then go back to bed until they have to get up. *Burrough's says that if you can't do the swf in the morning then drink the tea in the morning and evening instead. *I have seen where it was alright to wait until the afternoon to do the swf if you hadn't had any lemonades, but I don't think this would be everyday unless you were able to still get in the recommended amount of lemonade and water.

aida,
Try to drink the swf as quickly as possible and probably not taking longer than 20 or 30 minutes. Burroughs says 32 oz. Drink as much as you can.

Ginger
May 13th, 2005, 08:13 PM
Aida....try different things with the SWF. Some people think it's better warm, like soup. *Others try drinking very fast through a straw.

Constantino.....You're the first person I've heard of that could drink the SWF after drinking the lemonade during the day. *It usually makes people quite ill. *I agree with TC. *I can't do the SWF because of my job. *So I drink the tea am and pm. *and it works well for me.

Good luck

Ginger

Guest
May 14th, 2005, 04:21 PM
Thank you Ginger and TcRejoices,

I warmed up for SWF water this morrning and a lady in one of past post suggested to put some lime on tongue while drinking it so I did that and it worked perfect I finished SWF in less then 3 min and had 2 BM's so far.Well so far so good 2nd day started off good hope it stays that way...
Have a great day everyone.

constantino
May 16th, 2005, 03:56 PM
TcJ,

I drink 8-14 lemonade drinks a day, even with this schedule I have to be on during the work week. I feel magnificent and I'm hoping it alright. Burroughs says you need to have 3-4 movements a day and I exceed that plus get the recommended Lemon drink without sickness. Should I be alright?

Good luck all,
Jason

Leah
May 22nd, 2005, 01:02 PM
Hi everyone,
I thought i'd share my first experience with the SWF with you all (since i can' t really share it elsewhere ;) )
I read this entire message board before beginning (today is day 1 for me) and so i drank the tea last night (smooth moves), prepared the SWF last night, got up early and stuck the SWF in the micro for 2 minutes, then drank it as if it were soup (kept closing my eyes and pretending - i love a good salty soup). I drank from 930-10, went back to bed, woke up at 12 and thought that perhaps i was one of those people who won't eliminate the first couple of tries with the SWF ( i eat a lot of dairy), drank a couple of glasses of water (v. thirsty after all that salt!), had my first lemonade (nice and mild, not too bad at all!), then RAN to the washroom. 10 minutes later, I RAN once more. So...all in all, not a bad start!
Leah

Peter
May 23rd, 2005, 02:57 PM
Hi Leah,

I'd avoid microwaving the water. The process alters the molecules and there is some early research that indicates it's not good for the body. :-X

Details can be found here: http://chetday.com/microwave.html

Peter 8)

leanza
May 28th, 2005, 08:07 AM
Hi. I hope I'm doing this right - this is my first posting on this board. But I'm on the 6th day of the fast and for the past few days (this is the third), when I drink the SWF in the morning, I start to feel nauseous. Today it's nearly impossible to drink the SWF because I'm suffering from a headache and it always affects my stomach. Is this normal - to feel queasy after drinking the salt water? Any recommendations?

THANKS!

BabyCakes
June 4th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Today is my first SWF and my very first MC ever. I drank the SWF an hour ago and I have had 5 BM's already in the last 45 min's!!!! The first one was slightly solid, the next 4 felt like water. Oops sorry, the next 5!! I just went again!! YIKES! I'm hoping this ends soon, I have a carnival to go to at my daughters school today. ;D

I think the SWF just affects people differently because I had no problem drinking all 32 oz in less than 10 min's. I did what somebody mentioned on here and just pretended it was Top Ramen Soup without the noodles. I love salty stuff anyways.

I really think it's mind over matter in some cases. Just know that it totally works!!

Good luck everyone,
BC~

DebJ
June 5th, 2005, 12:59 AM
Babycakes,

Have you been able to escape the toilet trap today? ;D

I find the swf starts hitting me even as fast as 10 min after I finish and is done (for the most part) after an hour, then if more later not so urgent I worry about not being able to get to BR in time....

are you doing ok?

DebJ

BabyCakes
June 5th, 2005, 02:48 AM
LOL @ the SW trap. Yes, finally after 1 1/2 hours and 7 BM's later. I couldn't believe how fast that stuff works and for how long. After 15 min's I was at the toilet. And every 5-15 min's after that for 6 more. The last 2 were not so urgent but I figured best to get them out of the way so I wouldn't have to go at the carnival! :o When I finally felt like it was over we left for the carnival. That was a test in itself with all of the food. But I was a good girl and I overcame. YIPPEEE!!!!

I'm going to try 1 tsp tomorrow and see what happens. Maybe I don't need so much salt. At least if it doesn't work I know I can go back to 2 tsp with NO problem having a BM....lol Not sure I'm too happy about doing it during the week. I'm not a morning person as it is so waking up even 1 hour earlier is a task.

BC~ (Staci)

Guest
June 14th, 2005, 01:27 AM
Hello,

I need some advice from you veteren cleansers. Here's my deal with the flush:

Day 1: 32oz water 2 Tsp Non-Iodized sea salt
RESULT: Nothing

Day 2: 32oz water 2.5 Tsp Non-Iodized sea salt
RESULT: Bloated and full, but no elimination

Day 3: 32oz water 2 Tsp Non-Iodized sea salt
RESULT: The water actually passed through but it took over two hours before it even started

I'm not sure which way to go next. I've heard that for some people the flush won't work for the first couple of days because of previous diet. And the salt water today was super hard to get down. I'm thinking of trying to go back to 2tsp and see if it works thinking that it wasn't the amount of salt that was preventing the salt from passing through previously.

Any thoughts?

slush

belle
June 21st, 2005, 01:25 AM
hi, this is my first mc and I'm at the end of day 4. I haven't gone to the bathroom at all except for pee. I take the lax tea morning and night with senna. I have not done the swf, is that maybe why? :-/

belinda

DebbieAnne
June 21st, 2005, 08:43 AM
slush;

here's my experience. when i went to my local health food store, i got non iodized sea salt, company name Redmond. it was in a pouch and looked like kosher salt. that stuff almost made me gag a couple of times, but i did it. that was for my first cleanse 13 days last month.

i am now on day 18 of my second clease. well, a couple of days ago i went to get more salt and bought a much more expensive brand 'celtic sea salt' which is much more finely ground.

THIS STUFF IS FANTASTIC ! compared to the other stuff.

so, are you doing Celtic Sea Salt? it's SO much easier taste-wise.

also, it is very normal not to have any eliminations in the first couple of days like that. just keep following the program.

good luck.

debbie

jamiecos
June 21st, 2005, 05:09 PM
Hi Belle,

I'm on Day 9 of my first cleanse. I couldn't down the SWF at all, so I've been drinking the laxative tea night and mornings. Every morning, I follow the tea with 32 oz. of distilled water.

Let me tell you.....I go immediately about 3-5 times in the next hour or so. Hey, if you can get the SWF down, kudos....I couldn't handle it.

Best of luck!

belle
June 21st, 2005, 06:26 PM
oh thank you so much jamiecos.
I tried the swf this morning, I couldn't finish it, gross.
I'm defintely going to try your sugestion.

jamiecos
June 21st, 2005, 06:43 PM
Hey Belle,

I second your emotion! Let me tell ya...just getting a quart of plain (distilled or spring) water down first thing in the morning is a feat!

Go for it!!

Jamie

fnaz33
June 22nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
HI..i am new to the MC and wanted to know is it normally when you drink the salt water flush to throw up
right away..well i did and wanted to know do i drink it all over again?? or just start drinking the lemonade...and how long after do i start drinking the lemonade after i do the salt water flush...i have your book...and i just ordered lose weight book...i am doing a 10 day cleanse..i hope i can get throught it...thanks.. ???

Guest
July 6th, 2005, 01:58 PM
I am on my third day of the cleanse. I have been using Himallayan rock crystal salt. The woman at the health food store said it was better than sea salt , more pure. It seems to be working for me. Is it okay to use this instead of the sea salt?

powderz
July 8th, 2005, 12:16 PM
I was able to get down the SWF for the first couple of days but on the third day only about half. I just couldn't stomach the rest. A friend who has done the fast told me that they would put the salt in just a little watter and chug it then follow with the quart of water. I did that today and managed to get it down, but my stomach felt very unsettled. Is it okay to take it that way (will it mix in the stomach)? Or would I be better off taking the laxative tea morning and evening?
Thanks for the help.

quietqueen
July 13th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Even though I have work in the morning I am thinking of trying the salt water fast tomorrow to help things along as for as eliminating goes.

Just to clarify the recipe is 1qt (32oz) of warm water with one level tablespoon uniodized sea salt? or is it two teaspoons?

One time I got the dosage wrong and became very ill so I want to be CERTAIN this this time. Anyone who knows the answer please let me know before I leave work at 5p.m est today.

Thanks! :)

Journey_to_health
July 13th, 2005, 11:07 AM
Hi quietqueen

The recipe for the SWF is as follows

Add 2 tsp of uniodized salt to a full quart of luke-warm water. Must me taken on an empty stomach.

Good luck

quietqueen
July 13th, 2005, 11:21 AM
Thanks Journey!

I noticed that since you started over we're on the same day. How long are you aiming to go for?

sarmis33
July 19th, 2005, 04:28 PM
I was wondering something about the swf. If you drink the full liter and nothing happens, does this mean that all that salt is being absorbed by the body instead of just a quick pass through? And if so, is that really bad for you? About the amount of salt......if two teaspoons isn't working, should I raise the amount or lessen it?

Sarah

jmoneyct
July 20th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Sarmiss -

What day are you on and how many times have you tried the SWF? I'm on Day 3 and have been successful with the SWF 3 times now. I've been doubling the two teaspoons each time.

make sure:
-first thing in morning; empty stomach
-uniodized salt; preferably Celtic sea salt
-have something to read in bathroom

jmoney

Guest
August 3rd, 2005, 12:28 PM
I can't use the salt in the morning, I work really early and don't want to be going back and forth to the restroom at work, (I have a slight phobia). Can I use the salt water to eliminate at night?

kristensb
August 3rd, 2005, 01:37 PM
I have read that if you can't do the salt water flush, to just drink the laxative tea in the am and pm. I am starting my MC on Sunday. I work and have to drive in traffic to work, (only about a half hour - forty five minutes). I obviously wants all of the benefits of the MC so therefore I want to do the SWF. If I woke up 90 minutes before I had to leave for work, would there be any reason to believeI couldn't make it from home to work without having an accident? It's a little nerve racking to read about everyone having liquidy substance come out... can you still hold it in? I see all these people that do SWFs; do any of you have full time jobs and are able to still do it? Also, since I am starting on Sunday, can I start with a SWF and then go on to drink the teas? or do you need to start drinking the teas maybe on Saturday night and I do the SWF on Sunday?

Res
August 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM
Kristen,

It actually depends on your body. Not sure if you started yet but starting on the weekend is best at first so you can gauge how your body reacts.

Some people here get up early (as you said) and do the flush in the morning because they commute for 1 to 1.5 hours to get to work. Many of us work full time. That was my concern too when I first started.
Others can do the flush in the morning, and be done in 20-30 minutes. That's not me! :-/ I can only do the flush on the weekends because, well, I've never had a problem in that area. ;)

If you'd like to join us, wander over to the "Lemonheads August 5th Cleanse" thread.


On another Note: Sea salt vs Celtic Sea salt.
I'm definitely a supporter of Celtic Sea Salt! I bought the light gray celtic salt and found that it goes down MUCH BETTER than the other.

If anyone is having trouble gagging down the SW, try the Celtic. :)

~Res

le
August 8th, 2005, 09:42 AM
Good morning all! First day, starting the swf now. I am at work. I have already had 3 movements without the swf. Hubby doesn't know if he will make it 10 days but he is going to try.

starminx
August 8th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Good Evening ! Well, I have been dabbling in making the MC and drinking it, haven't gone full force yet though. . . I think i'll be starting either Friday or Saturday coming up. I just bought the Smooth Move laxative tea, excited to try that tonight. . . And a few minutes ago I made the SWF just to try it out and GROSS!!! :o That is so nasty !!!
Am I totally killing the point of the MC If I choose to do the tea morning & night instead of the SWF ?? ??? I will try the other salt mentioned, but damn, that was the sickest thing i've ever tasted !!!

*ronnie*

Res
August 8th, 2005, 07:59 PM
Hi Ronnie,

You're using 2 Teaspoons and not Tablespoons, right? Just checking. :) And it must be done on an "empty" stomach otherwise mostly likely you'll throw up. :-X

Yes, you can do the tea both morning and evening, but truly the SWF empty's you and it feels great afterwards. You feel thinner and gunk free. So try it the way it's suggested in Burroughs book and try it on a weekend instead of the middle of the week.

Hope that helps! :)

~Res

Grand_Mommy_Kira
August 9th, 2005, 03:09 PM
Hello LEMONHEADS! ::)

Just a note, I like to drink my SWF with "cool" water and NOT "warm." I could not stand it warm. It has worked very effectively this way for me through 3 MC. If you do not like it warm, please try it with cool or cold water.
:P ;D

Good Luck LEMONHEADS, you can learn to like the SWF!

Peace & Love!
Kira Moon ::)

DTrain
August 9th, 2005, 10:38 PM
I have a question regarding preparing the SWF. Is it ok to mix the salt and water the night before and store it in a covered nalgene bottle, so it's ready to go in morning? It seems like it would be ok, but I'm checking because I don't want to lose any of its potency as would happen with preparing the lemonade too far in advance. I'm heading into day 3, on the way to at least 10 and want to get the very most out of this experience.

miracle
August 10th, 2005, 07:54 AM
Hi DTrain,

I have read that people prepare the SWF the night before. I don't understand why though. Why do you want to prepare the night before?

nueland
August 10th, 2005, 11:33 AM
I personally wouldn't prepare it the night before.. It only takes a few seconds to mix it, so I would definitly recomend you mix it in the morning because it could loose some potency!! ???

Did the swf this morning and the last cup was pretty hard getting down, but I did!! ::) ::)

Guest
August 12th, 2005, 07:07 PM
Ok, so I'm on my second day of the MC (first time) and - of course my hormones had to join the game...so today was MISERABLE. Didn't do much but sleep most of the day to keep myself from taking something for cramps and giving in to the chocolate cravings! :P But I have a question regarding the morning salt wash - I took the lax tea last night and around 6am I woke up and spent about an hour on the toilet. (this is after dreaming about eliminating all night long...in cafes with friends, and various other inconvenient places, running back and forth to the bathroom) anyway...all day I have been doing just that - running back and fourth to the john. I'm already eliminating so much now that I am afraid of what the salt wash will do to me! And I'm afraid to drink more of the tea tonight! Any advice to share? Is this normal? Thanks!!!

Res
August 12th, 2005, 07:18 PM
*chuckle...yes it's normal. :)

The tea did that to me my first cleanse too. The SWF will get it all out in about 2 hours. It's quicker actually. :)

The dreams are something else aren't they? ;)

Hang in there. You'll do fine. ;D
~Res

Pepperhead
August 15th, 2005, 11:52 AM
New here! So sorry if this is a dumb question. ??? Why no lemon juice in the SWF? I'm on my 14th day and I make mine up the night before with 1 qt. of water, 2tsp. sea salt and 3 TBSP. of Lime juice. I get up at 3am and empty from the tea, run 3-4 miles on Eliptical, drink the SWF, set in warm bath and then 45 minutes later run to the pot. The first time it is clear with mucous, the second time blackish/brown and evenly distributed with mucous and feces, lastly yellowish with mucous. Then I am back in bed by 6am for a short nap. I get up by 7 and have my first cup of lemonade. Thanks for your info.

Res
August 15th, 2005, 12:38 PM
Pepperhead: Burroughs doesn't say anything about mixing Lemon\Lime juice with the flush. Primarily because the juice is food. Strictly adhering to his instructions is what brings the greatest results. :)

I've seen people eating soup on the cleanse and then 3 days later never hear from them again. I'm assuming they quit because it's "Not working". ;)

So we simply follow Burroughs intructions to the T. :)

I hope that helps,

Love,
~Res

soybeans
August 15th, 2005, 01:26 PM
Hello MCs! (Master Cleansers)

I am nineteen, small female, vegetarian/vegan.

I am on my first day and after drinking only half a quart of the salt water, I immediately had a mild BM. Is this supposed to happen after a couple of minutes? I mean, I've been reading how people get BM within two hours.

(I assume it has to do with my being vegetarian/vegan.)

Pepperhead
August 15th, 2005, 02:06 PM
Thanks for your response Res.
I am using organic lime juice from a bottle. No pulp.

I know it is frowned upon but I am getting great results. I have not been able to use any peppermint in my diet for 15 years without feeling poisoned for 2 to 3 weeks at a time. By the 5th day I decided to give it a try and got sick as usual but it was gone by the next day. I have been drinking peppermint tea ever since with no ill effects. I've always known that this herb was a detoxifier and would try to overload on it even to see if I could purge my system and would always get terribly sick. That is how I know the MC is working wonders for me.

Also for 4 days I have had my right armpit stink literally like a dead skunk but my left one has had no odor at all. A cyst came up on that pit the first day and came to a head, it is healed now, then I had terrible pain last night througout my entire right shoulder and by this morning the pain was gone along with the smell.

My fasting days include 65-herb tea and juice/7-water only/40 juice/15 water only.

I can't get this down without the lime juice and the senna tea gives me terrible pain but I take it once in the evening.

Thanks for your reply, I know your very educated on the MC.
Sincerely, Pepperhead

starminx
August 16th, 2005, 06:27 PM
No wonder I couldn't handle how gross the SWF was, I was actually using SEA SALT, intead of just plain salt !! lol ;D
So, now that I know, I will try it over the weekend, I am starting a new job this week so wish me luck !! 8)

*R o n n i e*

theorangeman
August 16th, 2005, 08:03 PM
??? Not sure I follow you. You ARE supposed to use sea salt.

theorangeman
August 17th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Just wanted to add something here for those struggling with the SWF. *I began the cleanse yesterday and had one heck of a time getting the salt water down, but I eventually did do it. * ;D *However, it took 25 minutes of sheer will and I wasn't sure it was going to stay down as I was doing it. *

After doing the SWF yesterday I was really surprised how awful the experience was so I began reading (all 15 pages) this thread to learn if there were others out there struggling with it too and if anyone had any suggestions for making it better. *I wasn't expecting the swf to be enjoyable, but I was a little shocked at how bad it tasted * :P

After reading all of the comments yesterday, I decided I would do three things differently. *

1. *Get some different sea salt (without the anticaking agent in it)
2. *Instead of drinking it luke-warm, heat it up slightly
3. *Dab my tongue on a lemon after each drink

As for finding sea salt without the anticaking agent in it; that wasn't possible for me since I don't have a health food store in my town and all of the grocery stores carry the same kind of salt. *I was REALLY disappointed after looking because I thought I would surely be in store for another fun experience the next day and every day after while on the cleanse. *

To my surprise, my experience was MUCH different this morning. *I heated the salt water up a little bit and that made all the difference in the world! *Instead of struggling for 25 minutes, I chugged it down in only 3 minutes! *:) *After my first chug (in which I took half of it down), I didn't even reach for the lemon. *However, after my second chug, I thought I would try it since a few people have commented on how that helped them. *For me, the lemon made it worse. *It made the salt water taste more distinct *:P *I quickly threw the lemon out and continued drinking without it.

Bottom line - if you are struggling with the swf, try doing what others have suggested in this thread and do whaterver works for you. *I'm sure you will find something that makes it more do-able if you try. *For me, it was one simple thing - heating the water up a little bit so it was like drinking salty soup. *The colder the water, the worse it is for me psychologically. *I was surprised by this, because yesterady I was thinking about trying the salt water with cold water until reading a few posts which recommended heating the water up. *

I'm much, much happier now and unlike yesterday, I'm not regretting the next swf! * ;)

LNdolls
August 17th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Gourmet shops carry Fleur De Sel - which is very tasty and very pure sea salt. I use only that.

And I just learned to chug the SWF myself.. been a 5-10 minute SWFer all this time.. now it takes literally seconds.. Warm, salty and it is over!! I really like that.
Best,
LN

Guest
August 18th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Hi , I'm on day 2 of my ist MC..and having a rough time with the salt and cayenne..
I've started doing a salt water "shot " in 2 oz water followed by the 30 oz water right away...
This has been asked by people 2x before,.... is this ok?? It seems to work alright. nvery easy to do!
Also, I'm doing this with the lemonade as well....one tenth tsp cayenne straight followed by my lemonade to wash it down, then I enjoy the rest...is this ok ?HELP HELP HELP

theorangeman
August 18th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Lou Lou - GREAT QUESTION... which I can't answer. :-/

Funny thing is after my post yesterday about how much better the swf was, today it was like day one - nasty and hard to get down. Interestingly, now that I think about it, I think what made it better yesterday is that when I drank it I noticed (after drinking 3/4 of it) that most of the salt had settled on the bottom of the pitcher that I drink from. Therefore, I believe what actually made it better yesterday was the fact that most of what I drank was very, very mild without much salt and the last bit was very, very salty. Much easier to get down that way. SO...

I'm wondering the same thing which you asked - hoping to get some feedback from folks. I can't stand cayenne pepper in my delicious lemonade - it spoils it for me. So, today I started taking a shot of the cayenne pepper right before drinking the lemonade. Can't see why that wouldn't work. Not sure about the salt water - but it seems that if you do it all fast enough together, why wouldn't it work.

The cayenne pepper is more difficult to answer. However the swf should be fairly easy - did you get the same results when you did it that way? Did it induce eliminations? It did for me yesterday, in fact, more than today (I had five starting about 15 minutes after drinking).

Lou_Lou
August 18th, 2005, 11:56 PM
when i tried the swf, by taking the shot of salt in 2 oz h2o and followed it right away with the rest of the clear h20, it acted the same as drinking it all at once together (YYYYYUUUCKKK) by the way. about 15 minutes later also, i had about 4 or 5 eliminations
The cayanne i've been "tossing back" before every glass of lemonade all day and same, no different effects....i do feel "warm" after for a couple of minutes though ( kinda neat ) makes you feel like its " working"
??
I just wanna know if this is ok........otherwise back at it again tomorrow L

Pepperhead
August 19th, 2005, 02:40 AM
Wow! So many good points have been made about the SWF. I was concerned about adding the lime juice to my ice cold ones but I am still having the eliminations and this morning I passed 4" of mucous. I got gross like so many and had to check it out, so adorned some gloves and was amazed at how tightly nit together this stuff appeared to be. Smelt like turpentine to me. Really nasty chemical smell.
As far as the SWF I like mine cold with the lime and drink it while in a warm tub after my 4 miles on the cross-trainer.

By the way, I am on day 18 of the MC. Starting juice fasting 11 days prior as prep.

Thanks to all of you for the support and good ideas. Everything in life can be improved upon otherwise we would all still be driving Model T's.

nueland
August 19th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Pepperhead-
this is off topic but what juices did you use for the juice fasting and how much, I have been researching it a little lately and can't find to much yet!! I think I am going to run out of maple syrup before I get to 28 days so I will go as long as I can on the mc and the finish with the juice fast if I run out!! TIA

Pepperhead
August 21st, 2005, 01:52 AM
Hi! Nueland,

Clearer finer juices,

I did a cilantro juice-I put 500gr. of fresh cilantro into a blender with orange juice and a fresh carrot and pureed. For one day I only drank cilantro juice. 2-500gram packages of fresh cilantro (stems and leaves) put into blender with 1 cup of warm water and puree. Add that to one liter bottle and top with cool water. Cilantro is excellent herb for metal detox. I used the cilantro, oj, carrot combination for one week with other juices. (I had amalgam filling removed). The rest of the time I drink apple juice, beet juice with OJ, and broccolli juice.

For thicker juices- I froze banana's (got the ones on sale that are over riped) run the banana under a hot tap for a 30 seconds, peel, then use knife to slice off rest of peeling that is frozen. Chop into blender and add 2 TBSP. milled flax seed, 2 TBSP.of green pumpkin seed, for a liquid add either coconut milk or pineapple juice. Depends on your taste. Just enough to make it a slushy type drink. I know banana's bind some people up so you can use any frozen fruit you would like.

Here is an excellent Mexican Detox Pesto: Try adding it to tomato soup.

3 cloves of garlic
5 brazil nuts(selenium)
1/3 cup green pumpkin seeds(parasites)
1/2 cup of sunflower seeds
3 cups of fresh cilantro(metal detox)
2TBSP. milled flaxseed(Omega 3 oils)
1/2 cup of the best olive oil you can find, or flaxseed oil.
3TBSP. lemon juice. (enzymes)
Add cayenne pepper to taste. (blood vessels)
Sea salt to taste.

Hope this helps

Princessa
August 24th, 2005, 12:42 PM
Does anyone know the exact proportions for the SWF SHOT?????

and....does it work the same/ better/worse??

PLEASE ADVICE!!

Thanks a lot!!!

Lou_Lou
August 24th, 2005, 01:21 PM
The "sw shot" is 2 tsp sea salt with as many oz straight h2o as you want out of your 32 oz total....

eg: I use 2 0z warm water (dissolves better) with 2 tsp seasalt, and then drink 30 oz water right after...cold..
MUCH more palattable p.s i'm on day 8 and goin strong..a classic textbook MC'R yayyyy

REN
September 15th, 2005, 06:48 AM
The first 3 days I did the salt water flush fine, then I started getting a bad headache about 15 mnutes after taking the drink. It took most of the day for it to go away. When I use the tea morning and night I am eliminating, but do not get the headache. This time the first timeI took the salt wate flush I also got a bad headache. I could taste the salt all day. I am using unprocessed sea salt. Any suggestions. Also...do you get any effects if you have to stop the fast after 5 days. I plan to reschedule so I can do the full 10 days.

Thanks for your help...Otherwise I feel great on this drink.

Rosemary

Peter
September 15th, 2005, 01:16 PM
The "sw shot" is 2 tsp sea salt with as many oz straight h2o as you want *out of *your 32 oz total....

eg: I use 2 0z warm water *(dissolves better) with 2 tsp seasalt, and then drink 30 oz water right after...cold.
Hi Lou_Lou, :)

I saw the posting on your "sw shot" and wanted to clarify something.

Burroughs says the reason for the salt in the salt water flush is to increase the relative weight (the scientific term for that is "specific gravity.") of the liquid to match the relative weight of blood. So the kidneys cannot pick up the water and the blood cannot pick up the salt.

Separating the salt from the quart of luke-warm water defeats the purpose of adding the salt. I understand that it may be working satisfactorily for you, but others whose digestive system or kidneys are not fully functioning may not get the desired result. :-[

I'm sorry if I sound like a teacher being strict with his students, but I know that if people follow Burroughs' instructions exactly, they'll have the best chance of getting great results and I want everyone to have the best possible results. ;)

Peter

Guest
September 16th, 2005, 01:02 AM
Anyone else have a problem with the SWF still working like 5hrs later?

I've varied the salt and usually down it under 7 minutes. It'll start working 30 minutes later and the majority of it comes out within an hour. But hours later I'll still be passing some. This wasn't happening the first few days. It's just..annoying. ::)


And I hate that drunken, toxic, nauseating, headache I get seconds after drinking it. :'(

Robin99
September 20th, 2005, 09:39 AM
Hi!
By lukewarming 16 oz of water, I thought I had solved my SWF problem because I could drink it all. My problems was that after drinking half of it with a straw I had a very difficult time trying to shallow the rest.

So, is lukewarming allow or this is not correct? I'm mixing the salt with it so I'm not separating anything. I'm mixing my 2 teaspoons with 32 oz. Only that 16 oz are warm. Is this going to leave the salt in my system? Should I stop heating the water? ???

I'm worried :-/!

Peter
September 20th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Anyone else have a problem with the SWF still working like 5hrs later?
Hi Noob,

On my first three cleanses I had problems with some urgent elminations in the afternoon. It went away as I got more "cleaned out."

Peter 8)

Peter
September 20th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Is lukewarming allowed or this is not correct?

Hi Robin99,

Burroughs' actual words are "luke warm" for the water in the salt water flush.

Peter

Patti
October 18th, 2005, 10:24 AM
I started the MC today. I did the salt flush this morning and gagged. I only got 5 mouthfuls down. So I did the tea. I disappointed I could do the salt flush. I'm going to try again in a couple days, after I have some eliminations. I read in Peter's book to do the tea in the morning until I detoxify a couple days. Maybe the salt water will not be so strong. I used an uniodized brand other than the Light Grey brank Perter recommended. I'm going to try the brank Peter mentioned. Maybe that will be better.

I had such high hopes for this cleansing which I thougt I really needed. I had such a poor diet growing up, bad eating habits. I'm now 36 years old and feel like I'm 50. I'm about 30 pounds overweight after having 2 kids and need to get my life back! I need more energy and more happiness in my life. I feel worn out. I'm hoping this cleanse lifts me up.

I've tried to eat "healthy" but not matter what, I still feel "something" weighing me down (and I don't just mean fat). It's crazy to think a 10 day cleansing can change your life but from what I read, it's worth a try. I have nothing to lose.

Wish me luck! :-/

Lily
October 18th, 2005, 12:04 PM
I used the SWF yesterday morning and this morning. I got results but also I feel overloaded with salt- I'm puffy, thirsty all the time, and my weight is not 2 lbs higher than pre-fast! (I am on day 2) This doesn't make sense as I've eliminated a ton of junk.
Anyone else had this happen?

dsanmarco
October 19th, 2005, 09:58 AM
I started the MC today. *I did the salt flush this morning and gagged. *I only got 5 mouthfuls down. *So I did the tea. *I disappointed I could do the salt flush. *... Wish me luck! :-/ *

Good luck Patti!

Today is day 4 of MC1.

Yesterday I could barely get down the SWF. I gagged and almost threw it back up.

This morning was a different story... I gently heated up 1.25 tsp of Fleur de Sel in 2 cups of water and drank it after being warmed for about 90 seconds. I was so easy! I made my second glass and that went down just as easy. I finished them in about 5 minutes.

After I finished I did the exercises recommended on the board and I had an elimination in just under 10 minutes. What a difference! I was really afraid I wouldn't be able to do it after yesterday but it was cake. As some of the others said... "salty soup!" they're right!

andelicious
October 20th, 2005, 02:09 AM
i have a question about the time of the SWF. im in college and i wake up at 630 to get to my first class at 730am. i get home at 930am. is it ok to wait til 930 to do the flush or do i have to do it right when i wake up?

Lily
October 21st, 2005, 11:46 AM
I've done mine at night and had the same results as doing it in the AM. I'm sure doing it a few hours late is much better than not at all at least.

reynasmama
November 3rd, 2005, 08:53 PM
hello,
please excuse my lack of knowledge....this is my first time posting, and my first time doing this cleanse (day 4 today). I reviewed many of the postings, but did not find answers to my questions. One: when doing the SWF daily, does one continue to eliminate every single day of the fast? TWO: although I'm doing fine taking the SWF in the AM, my experience has been that my eliminations are strictly fluid.....even very light or clear in color. Does this mean that I am not detoxing, or should I increase the amount of salt?? I expected my urine to be clear in color with so much water intake, but am surprised at the BM being strictly liquid and no 'matter'. Is this unusual? I also did not find the exercises that were mentioned that help with elimination; if someone doesn't mind repeating those for me I would be very grateful!
Thanks for the help and support!
L

Margo32
November 4th, 2005, 09:47 AM
I am on day 5 and my eliminations are a clear yellow color with a few things in it. ::)

I think that the diet that you have before the MC effects what you see in your eliminations, I have been a vegetarian for about 4 months now. I know that toxicants are leaving my body because of how I feel physically and mentally. I feel so relaxed and happy with life. ::) I hope this helps.

aaron
November 4th, 2005, 12:57 PM
I get the same thing. I would say you are on a track.
*******IMPORTANT QUESTION********

Hey do I really need to do the laxative tea at night? Last night i didn't and am doing the swf this morning, and i'm having the same BM as i did when i took the laxative tea the previous night. It seems to me that i could just skip the laxative tea at night and do the swf in the morning and be just fine since the bm are just the same. Help? Is there some toxin elimination i'm missing if i don't do the laxative tea at night?

conn18
November 6th, 2005, 09:32 AM
I am new to the master cleanse but have heard very good things from friends that have tried it.

Regarding the salt water flush, is there a difference between uniodized regular salt and sea salt?

Also, I am on a public water supply and would like to use this water. I am not sure if it contains flouride but I know that it contains chloride. Can this water be used?
If not, what type of water should I purchase from the supermarket?

Thank you.

:)

Aimee
November 11th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Hey everybody, today is my first day of the MC. Did my SWF and within 10 mins had 5 BM's but no solids just yellow and little brown stuff floating around. I am using Hain sea salt, it says it does not contain iodine but when I looked at the ingredients it says sea salt and calcium silicate (anticaking agent) is this okay? And are my BM's normal?

saywhat1717
November 11th, 2005, 02:19 PM
Those BM sound just like mine! Watery and flaky stuff. And yes I can go about 5 times withing 10 minutes! I dont know about the anti-caking thing, all it says is to use uniodized sea salt, not iodized table salt.

Dianemcd
November 12th, 2005, 06:00 PM
I have just completed 10 days...I could not imagine committing to the upset of toxins in my body without committing to releasing them as well! As much as the SWF tastes, well, salty, removing these nasty toxins is of the upmost priority in my thinking...and it ain't "stinkin' thinkin'" either!! (pardon the pun!)

Seriously though, I strongly urge everyone to follow through on the SWF each morning. For the 10 minutes of unpleasantness that it takes to swallow the water, you will reap benefits of health unsurpassed!

Plug your nose if you must, and have a glass of clear water to rinse your mouth afterwards...do whatever it takes to get that salt water down.

Then stand there in front of the mirror and count down how many you have left to do, pat yourself on the back, and get on with the business of cleansing!

I support you all!

Maple Sugar :D

AMBER
November 12th, 2005, 06:57 PM
I have just completed 10 days...I could not imagine committing to the upset of toxins in my body without committing to releasing them as well! *As much as the SWF tastes, well, salty, removing these nasty toxins is of the upmost priority in my thinking...and it ain't "stinkin' thinkin'" either!! (pardon the pun!)

Seriously though, I strongly urge everyone to follow through on the SWF each morning. *For the 10 minutes of unpleasantness that it takes to swallow the water, you will reap benefits of health unsurpassed!

Plug your nose if you must, and have a glass of clear water to rinse your mouth afterwards...do whatever it takes to get that salt water down.

Then stand there in front of the mirror and count down how many you have left to do, pat yourself on the back, and get on with the business of cleansing!

I support you all!

Maple Sugar :D

i couldnt agree with u more maple...maybe that is why my detox symptoms are so slight ....i know if i mix the lax tea and the swf i will pay with feeling very bad....i am still hungry all the time that just never went away for me so that is rough

Peter
November 13th, 2005, 07:52 PM
Hey do I really need to do the laxative tea at night? Last night i didn't and am doing the swf this morning, and i'm having the same BM as i did when i took the laxative tea the previous night.
Hi Aaron,

Good question. The short answer is "yes." :)

The explanation, which you'll find in my book ;), is that the laxative tea stimulates the intestines to creeate more peristalsis -- the muscular waves of the intestines that move the food along the digestive tract and out of your body. Think of that as the agitator of a "washing machine." The salt water flush is the rinse cycle of that "washing machine." Skipping the laxative tea once or twice won't make that much of a difference, but not doing it as a regular part of the Master Cleanse will result iin less of the old waste being eliminated as the old waste tends to be deposited in layers in the intestines. It needs to be broken up, dissolved and washed away. If not washed away, it will be reabsorbed and you'll feel sick. :-[

It's best to follow Stanley Burroughs' instructions exactly because they'll give you the best chance of having great results from your Master Cleanse. That's why I didn't change any of them in my book.

In fact, because of the effectiveness of the cleanse, I recommend that after your cleanse, you take probiotics to replace any of the good bacteria you've eliminated. Probiotics are the good bacteria that :
- Produce vitamin A, B1, B2, B3, B12, and K;
- Kill some of the disease-causing germs in your intestines;
- Prevent bad bacteria (the bacteria that causes Candida, for example) from getting out of control;
- And — some recent studies report — lower cholesterol and help in cases of irritable bowel syndrome (diarrhea, pain, and heightened food sensitivities).

After several hours of research, I decided that I could only recommend probiotics that:
- had vegetarian cellulose capsules rather than animal-based gelatin,
- were temperature stable for shipping,
- could get the bacteria safely past the stomach acid to the intestines where they do their work, and
- were reasonably priced.

I finally found some that met all my requirements and they are now available in the webstore :D (http://123webmagic.com/themastercleanse/catalog).

Peter 8)

Peter
November 13th, 2005, 07:57 PM
I am on a public water supply and would like to use this water. Can this water be used?
If not, what type of water should I purchase from the supermarket?
Hi conn18,

Do not use tap water unless it's your private well. Otherwise, it contains chlorine and most likely fluoride. Fluoride has been used for decades to reduce thyroid function in people with overactive thyroids. Most people today find themselves overweight and tired. Both symptoms of low thyroid. Reducing it further is not good. :o

Burroughs says only use spring water or purified water. Stick with that.

Peter 8)